Oh, I wish those council guys would let me have an hour alone in the room with her, if I was larger and had grenades.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Spike's Bitches 43: Who am I kidding? I love to brag.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Hil R. - Jan 23, 2009 8:40:04 pm PST #8883 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think I'm overthinking this song.


Pix - Jan 23, 2009 8:40:43 pm PST #8884 of 10000
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

At the moment, SoCal is cold(ish) and damp.


Hil R. - Jan 23, 2009 8:43:00 pm PST #8885 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Interesting. Two songs from Babes in Arms (Lady is a Tramp and My Funny Valentine) are used in the Pal Joey movie.


Hil R. - Jan 23, 2009 8:45:25 pm PST #8886 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My officemate is from San Francisco and is constantly complaining about the weather here. According to him, in SF there is no weather and it's always 60 degrees. He was complaining about the heat in the summer, and he's been complaining about the cold now.


NoiseDesign - Jan 23, 2009 8:45:27 pm PST #8887 of 10000
Our wings are not tired

Yes, that was actually pretty common practice at the time. The movie version of Babes in Arms also has a slightly different lexicon of songs from the stage version.


Hil R. - Jan 23, 2009 8:48:30 pm PST #8888 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think the worst song replacement was done in On The Town. They lost You Got Me and replaced it with some entirely forgettable song. (Actually, I have forgotten the name.) Several other good songs were replaced with mediocre ones, too. I remember hearing that the producers of the movie thought that the originals were too "complex."


SailAweigh - Jan 23, 2009 8:51:24 pm PST #8889 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Did Babes in Arms and Pal Joey have the same songwriters? Otherwise, it sounds like it would be a pain to figure out royalties and that kind of stuff.

Hil, what was too complex? Did they think the movie actors couldn't carry a more complicated tune or were the lyrics so contextual, they thought most viewers wouldn't get them?


Hil R. - Jan 23, 2009 8:53:04 pm PST #8890 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

They're both Rodgers and Hart.

I think that they thought the viewers wouldn't like the songs.


NoiseDesign - Jan 23, 2009 8:53:30 pm PST #8891 of 10000
Our wings are not tired

Babes in Arms was also not produced on stage for a long long time due to a number of objectionable songs in the score. Chief among them is "All Dark People are Light on their Feet."


Hil R. - Jan 23, 2009 8:54:57 pm PST #8892 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Ah, just got to the part of Pal Joey where we find out that Joey really does have a "heart of gold" because he doesn't rape Linda while she's passed out.