Looks like civilization finally caught up with us.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


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Pix - Dec 18, 2008 10:17:34 am PST #4956 of 10000
The status is NOT quo.

I have strong feelings and ideas about the required national service concept for the US that I will share at some later point, but I don't think it's appropriate right now given that Shir and other Israelis are facing such a scary situation. I'm so sorry about the truce ending. Indeed, peace on earth. Please.


Shir - Dec 18, 2008 10:22:14 am PST #4957 of 10000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh, Kristin, please - feel free to share.

It's a crappy situation, and I can't believe how much this country keeps me disappointed at times - I mean, you'd think I've lived here long enough to stop expecting miracles, but lo. BUT, life goes on. They always do.


Hil R. - Dec 18, 2008 10:23:06 am PST #4958 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

A lot of US schools are requiring some sort of public service as a graduation requirement. But that doesn't necessarily translate into the students getting outside of their own groups and neighborhoods or to work with those somewhat different from themselves.

At Sidwell Friends (a friend of mine used to teach there, and told me about it), the policy is that the community service has to be serving some group that the student isn't part of -- either ethnically or racially or socially or financially or something. Also, rather than the "add up the hours" thing that a lot of schools have, where students can put in an hour or two with a whole lot of different organizations and total the requirement, at Sidwell, all the hours need to be with the same organization. And I think that it needs to be directly doing something, not just paperwork.


Hil R. - Dec 18, 2008 10:24:45 am PST #4959 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Shir, out of curiosity -- what's the general attitude toward the religious men who get exemptions from military service because they're in yeshiva?


Barb - Dec 18, 2008 10:27:17 am PST #4960 of 10000
“Not dead yet!”

Shir, love, I'm sorry about my stupid overprivileged parent vent. All things considered, not so bad.

Life does, indeed, go on. Here's hoping for safety, peace, and the sense God gave a cabbage to light upon the appropriate people's heads.


Shir - Dec 18, 2008 10:34:55 am PST #4961 of 10000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Depends on which parts of the population we're talking about, Hil. But the past few years, since their percentage went up, every few years the gov. is trying to make sure they will do something, but nothing really happen.

So, not too many people are happy with it. Especially since most of them are with the "the whole Land of Israel" approach (and doing nothing to defend it except for praying), nor paying taxes.

So you can guess.


Hil R. - Dec 18, 2008 10:36:17 am PST #4962 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Ah. OK, that was kind of the impression I'd gotten from various blogs and stuff. Thanks.


Shir - Dec 18, 2008 10:36:18 am PST #4963 of 10000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Barb, it's fine, you don't have to apologize.


omnis_audis - Dec 18, 2008 10:50:15 am PST #4964 of 10000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

This whole conversation made me text my sis an "I love you, hold on" message. She's gonna think I lost it. I expect an "are you dying?" message back.
When she calls back, let her know we all are vibing for her! I don't get the news at work, so I haven't heard more than the article I spotted at Google news. And I confess, my knowledge of the geography over there is bad, so I'll put in safe~ma thoughts for you too. It looks like you have a fair amount of traveling to get to your parents place every weekend.

I'd like to sign my name to WindSparrow's thoughts:

I'd like Peace on Earth for Christmas. I'd like an end to hatred and violence. Life's crappy enough, can you do something to keep us from being crappy to each other? Please?

Now I'm grumpy, too: [link]
Hmm, I wonder if medical folks working for the armed services can say "I don't want to fix him/her up, as you will just send them back to kill more people, and Jesus taught me killing is a sin". I wonder how that would go over? Not that it could happen, as I'm sure the armed forces docs are under different rules. Either way, it's messed up.

There was more to say, but can't recall. ~ma all around. Seems like it's needed!


Shir - Dec 18, 2008 10:59:19 am PST #4965 of 10000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Seems like it's needed!

Thanks. It is appreciated.