Um, why should the kids be more important? In life, sure, but for that one hour block?

I mean in the sense that I shouldn't expect them not to pay attention to the kid, i.e. if the kid is about to knock over a vase in the middle of my story, I shouldn't expect the parent to not intervene with the kid.

Ease to you, ND.

I am not nicer. Y'all take that back. I told you it was the guilt talking.

Well, more important in a "if you don't pay attention to them, they may wreak havoc, or choke to death or something" kind of way, depending on how old they are (they sound young). You can't really resent that. Not more important in a "they HAVE to come!" way.

Agreed with everyone else, Vortex...

Vortex, as it sounds like she's trying to work seeing you in with an existing, pre-scheduled outing with husband and kids, I'd suggest the Bev Plan.

(As a parent with just the one car, it's frustrating for me, because I'd love to see people without husband and kid, but that rarely works out for us in terms of transportation and schedule. So I expect she'd prefer to just see you, and get quality hanging out time, but may be thwarted by the realities of her transportation needs for the day.)

Have you taken anything? I suffer from something similar sometimes and it doesn't make the pain go away but a couple aspirin makes it bearable.

Not yet. It wasn't horrible when I got up today, but it seems to be getting worse and worse and now I can feel my whole upper back tensing up. If I can find some ibuprofen I'll take some.

Hope you can find some ibu, ND.

Vortex, I hope you can find a way to spend a little while with your friend, but have no words of wisdom to add to what everyone else is saying.

Are people following the news on today's attack in Mumbai, India? It seems that British and American tourists were the main targets. It involved attacks at multiple locations.

Olbermann and Maddow have been reporting on the Mumbai attacks.

I am back from Mom's. We have pre done some of the Thanksgiving stuff. Luckily, since we aren't cooking anything long, I don't have to be over there until 10:30 to help with the other stuff. Lunch is at 1 pm. Well we are trying for that.

I am at home and not with my family because my nephew who is so cute, is also fussy and crying. The dog and cat are not agreeing, the fan is on in the kitchen, the tv is on (but on mute) 5 adults were in one room and the heat was up for the baby.

That's too much for me, I'm getting better at learning my limits. Plus as much as I love my brother we just.. clash. Or rub each other the wrong way or I don't know.

So I'm hear listening to my downstairs neighbors ambient noise and just chilling.

Friday I am staying home, in my pjs and that's about it. I'm about peopled out.

Calli, I just watched Olberman and I'll watch Maddow later. I was just surprised to see no posts here about it.

We're headed home from Mom's now and will be headed back at noon tomorrow.

Askye, have fun chilling out tonight.Good luck with the family tomorrow.