I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Spike's Bitches 42: Which question do you want me to answer first?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Gadget_Girl - Sep 29, 2008 3:09:24 pm PDT #6971 of 10001
Just call me "Siouxsie Shunshine".

Fay, keep up the stories about your students. They are wonderful!

Today my "baby dyke diver" came into my room in tears. She just felt like it was hard being gay and could I help her make it stop. In the end she also talked to another one of my students and told her she is gay. My other student gave BDD a hug and said, "So. That doesn't change anything about you. You are one of my best friends and nothing will change that. We'll still have lunch one day so I can approve of your partner."

They had a 15 min 'confessional' in my office. My other students admitted she has an eating disorder and her mom is verbally abusive. BDD talked about a girl she had a crush on who led her on and then dropped her for a guy. She is also scared her parents will disown her if/when she finally tells them.

Then, they both wanted to know if Hub and I will be their "adoped parents forever". Teenagers...gotta love them


Gadget_Girl - Sep 29, 2008 3:11:54 pm PDT #6972 of 10001
Just call me "Siouxsie Shunshine".

Connie, would it help you if I sent you a grammar workbook? I've got a few extra that I know can go 'missing'.


Dana - Sep 29, 2008 3:12:28 pm PDT #6973 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

What is the difference between transitive and intransitive anyway?

Transitive verbs take an object. "I kicked the ball." Ball is the object of kicked.

Intransitive verbs don't. "I slept until noon." The verb sleep has no object.


amych - Sep 29, 2008 3:12:36 pm PDT #6974 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Don't fence me in, JZ!

GG, I feel so much for both of those kids right now, but I'm also so very glad to hear that BDD is out to as fab and supportive a friend as that.


Pix - Sep 29, 2008 3:15:12 pm PDT #6975 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

What is the difference between transitive and intransitive anyway?

Transitive verbs take a direct object. Example: I extolled her virtues. Extol needs a direct object (her virtues); it transitions, sort of. You wouldn't just say "I extolled." That would make us say, "You extolled WHAT??" A verb like "walk," however, is intransitive. It doesn't need a direct object. You can say "I walked" and have a complete thought. If you remember "in" = not (or without? I forget), you can remember that "intransitive" means that it does not need to transition to a direct object. It can stand on its own.

(I'm so much better at teaching this in person with shiny things and visuals.)

ETA: x-posty, of course


Polter-Cow - Sep 29, 2008 3:17:07 pm PDT #6976 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What is the difference between transitive and intransitive anyway?

Transitive verbs do things to other things. They need an object.

Intransitive verbs can function all on their own.

Going off Kristin's example, for instance:

Hec enjoys baseball. What does Hec enjoy? Baseball. That's transitive.

Hec walks down the sidewalk. What does Hec walk? Well, he's not walking anything; he's just walking. That's intransitive.

Some verbs can be both transitive and intransitive.

Hec eats gourmet food. What does Hec eat? Food. Transitive.

Hec eats at gourmet restaurants. What does Hec eat? We don't know; all we know is that he eats, just like any other creature. Intransitive.


Connie Neil - Sep 29, 2008 3:18:59 pm PDT #6977 of 10001
brillig

Hec really enjoys baseball; therefore, he coaches Little League. (This is another example of two independent clauses joined by a semicolon.)

Hec really enjoys baseball, so he coaches Little League.

Why isn't there a comma before "therefore", because it's not one of the FANBOYS? (I love that by the way)

Connie, would it help you if I sent you a grammar workbook? I've got a few extra that I know can go 'missing'.

It would be immensely useful! Profile addy good to work out details.

The Transitive/Instransitive thing makes sense, it's a matter of remember which one goes which way. I keep thinking "intransigent", which I may be able to work with.

You guys are the most useful, helpful people ever.


Connie Neil - Sep 29, 2008 3:21:10 pm PDT #6978 of 10001
brillig

it transitions, sort of

Ah ha! The link to the terminology! The answer is in the thing itself!

Am I a complete and utter dork for getting choked up at the resolution of a 40-year intellectual roadblock?


Ginger - Sep 29, 2008 3:23:03 pm PDT #6979 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I sure you can ace the grammar test, Connie. You're a good writer and you read. You'll recognize something that looks wrong.


Pix - Sep 29, 2008 3:28:28 pm PDT #6980 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

Why isn't there a comma before "therefore", because it's not one of the FANBOYS? (I love that by the way)

Yep, basically.

Hec really enjoys baseball; therefore, he coaches Little League.

The italics show the first independent clause.

"Therefore" is a conjunctive adverb (and I just had to look that up, so obviously knowing the term isn't all that important) that begins the next independent clause:

Hec really enjoys baseball; therefore, he coaches Little League.

Here's a good site for understanding conjunctions: [link]