See, Vera? Dress yourself up; you get taken out somewhere fun.

Jayne ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Spike's Bitches 42: Which question do you want me to answer first?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


sj - Sep 22, 2008 12:20:26 pm PDT #6312 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Wow, I killed the thread for two hours! Thanks for reviving it Erika.


erikaj - Sep 22, 2008 1:03:06 pm PDT #6313 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Near-death is my gift.The other day, I was so tempted to give my favorite quote on the Obama page as"When I first met you, you were like "Oh, I burned the damn muffins. Now you go into a bar and sailors come out." If all liberals were buffistas, I would have. This is one of Ted Kennedy's favorite quotes, in my profile. Now I want to hear him talk about "the Damn muffins." God help me.


Connie Neil - Sep 22, 2008 1:08:44 pm PDT #6314 of 10001
brillig

I'm listening to the Moody Blues, the 1969 album about the moon shot. They were so damned hopeful back then . . .


Nora Deirdre - Sep 22, 2008 1:26:59 pm PDT #6315 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Wow, I killed the thread for two hours!

Nah, I think it was my musings on marriage that did it.


ChiKat - Sep 22, 2008 1:30:48 pm PDT #6316 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

But is marriage really an institution that really serves society anymore, or is it a governmentally enforced vestige of patriarchy and financial transactions?

Speaking as a fairly privileged person here (straight, able to work, but not married), I think that marriage does not serve society anymore. My personal take is that marriage should be to serve the couple and no one else. Do I want to get married? Not necessarily in the legal sense, but I would like to have a ceremony of committment with my life partner.

Assuming, of course, I, you know, meet him.


Deena - Sep 22, 2008 2:42:48 pm PDT #6317 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I was just telling Greg yesterday that we should go back to the way they did it in the middle ages. Sign the legal contracts somewhere else, then go to the church (or place of choice) for a ceremony that means something to the participants without actually linking the two.

Have you guys read the article about the couple who got married without a license? The girl's father is a pastor, and he is telling all of his congregants not to get a marriage license because the state they're in changed the titles on the license from Husband and Wife to Party 1 and Party 2.


Connie Neil - Sep 22, 2008 2:46:05 pm PDT #6318 of 10001
brillig

The girl's father is a pastor, and he is telling all of his congregants not to get a marriage license

It's worked for polygamists for years.


Deena - Sep 22, 2008 3:13:05 pm PDT #6319 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

It certainly seems odd. I mean, isn't he then telling them it's okay to live in sin because he knows about it and they had a nice party?

I hadn't thought of that with the polygamists, but it makes sense. I think that was a "duh" moment for me.


Connie Neil - Sep 22, 2008 3:16:36 pm PDT #6320 of 10001
brillig

isn't he then telling them it's okay to live in sin

Ah, but they're not living in sin, their union was blessed by God. And he's suddenly demonstrated that marriage is a religious thing, separate from government, so all the governmental rights of marriage should be available to anyone.


askye - Sep 22, 2008 3:19:38 pm PDT #6321 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I read on a blog, maybe feministing, that one couple feels their wedding is ruined because it says Party A and B and not Bride and Groom, maybe it's the same couple. They said that this proves that same sex marriage adversely effects opposite sex marriage. Which just is lame to me.

Personally I like the seperate religious and civil ceremonies. Plenty of people don't get married in a church or with a religious ceremony. My aunt is a Notary Republic and she married a couple who got married at a lake in swim suits. They jumped in afterwards.