NOBODY does that any more? And he's an English prof?? Is he cynical and depressed about it, or does he truly believe that? Because I think there are plenty of ranty grammar nuts out there (and Buffistas quite well represented among them!) who try to keep the "whom" going.

...of course, there are many people out there who try to keep "whom" going and get it WRONG, but maybe let's not get into that.

Toddson, that sounds AWFUL!! Jeez. Stabbity splorch indeed! Especially the someone else getting training, and the "where the hell is the stuff I need" and...gawd. I would be all "quit, and see where they end up!" except, no. Get an awesome new better job, and THEN see where they end up without you. Eeesh.

I found a donut. SO not the same.

I have very ripe bananas. I think I'm going to experiment in the next day or so with making a tropical sort of scone.

Or maybe I'll just make banana bread. With chocolate chips. Or maybe caramel chips.

I'll stop now.

So, in my history of the English language class last week, the prof said that "back in our grandparents time," they distinguished between who and whom, but no one does that anymore.

Tell your prof that he or she is full of shit. Only not in those words. You're telling me that your prof doesn't bother to distinguish between the two, and then spreads that wrongness to students? For shame, vw's prof. For shame.

Who here distinguishes "proper usage" of who/whom?

Me. Every single time.

Todd, I have so been there. Sometimes it seems an entire workplace conspires to demean and abuse the most productive workers. That's why I freelance.

Have a drink.

Cereal:

Barb is taunter who taunts, is what!

{{Todd}} They are so completely undeserving. I hope you are able to wind down and relax some this evening. And find a more worthy job.

Open house at the 11th grade level was really sparse, but that was good for actually getting to speak with the teachers. I don't know what happened with 8th grade; I fear we missed it. Ooops.

If'n I could shove fresh scones or banana bread through the interpipes, Jen, I surely would.

He's not full of shit, actually. He's pretty progressive on language change. He used who/whom as an example of word-shortening as the natural evolution of language. I just happen to think it was a bad example. Though, when I pressed the issue, I was the *only* person in the class that raised my hand as knowing/using the difference.

But then again, no one today knew who William F. Buckley, Jr. was--and even worse, they didn't know what the National Review was.

What is our world coming to?

NOBODY does that any more? And he's an English prof??

Seriously, WTF? Maybe not a lot of people know it well, but that's seriously bizarre.

But then again, no one today knew who William F. Buckley, Jr. was--and even worse, they didn't know what the National Review was.

They need Family Ties dvds, stat.