Jayne: Yeah, that was some pretty risky sittin' you did there. Wash: That's right, of course, 'cause they wouldn't arrest me if we got boarded, I'm just the pilot. I can always say I was flying the ship by accident.

'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 42: Which question do you want me to answer first?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DavidS - Sep 10, 2008 8:17:03 am PDT #5105 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well I hope everyone will be glad to know that quantity, purpose, and quality of homework is an ongoing and controversial debate among educators. Current research suggests (duh) moving away from busy work and only assigning homework if it truly extends the learning from the class (or involves necessary reading for the class). Many schools are examining their policies and practices, but this type of change takes a lot of time and teacher buy-in.

Emmett does his homework regularly with mostly just grumping about it, but in second grade he used to have regular meltdowns about it. And he is finding the homework load this year (7th grade) very heavy and a burdensome.

He does way, way more homework than I had to do growing up. And since he does it, and gets good grades I do cut him a lot of slack around school.

His school is highly ranked by API scores and does challenge the students. But I really don't know if they actually know more than I did when I was going to my slackass school with halfass homework assignments.

I have a hard time reconciling the constant gripe that public schools are in steep decline compared to what they were, when I can clearly see that Emmett's schoolwork is far more difficult than mine was.


meara - Sep 10, 2008 8:21:07 am PDT #5106 of 10001

Huh. I guess I often enough had classes where they were hard enough that it took doing the homework to understand the concepts outside of class...but yeah, sometimes it was just busywork.

I totally get the "show your work", though. Otherwise maybe you're just cheating. Or, more importantly, maybe you get the wrong answer because [not that this would EVER happen to me] you add the numbers just a little bit wrong but you TOTALLY have the right CONCEPT, and if you show your work you can get a lot of partial credit that if you just gave the answer the teacher would have to be like "2? The answer is 75! Where did you get 2? SO WRONG!! FAIL!!"


Emily - Sep 10, 2008 8:21:16 am PDT #5107 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

compared to what they were

Yeah, I don't know if I quite buy this either. I think often people are comparing schools which are trying to educate all students with schools where many had already dropped out, or changed to vocational programs, etc.

But that's me bullshitting. Don't quote me.


omnis_audis - Sep 10, 2008 8:26:22 am PDT #5108 of 10001
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I got my revenge with illegible hand writing.
That was me. In college one of the Prof's made me do his "blue book" essay tests in the computer lab. "I'm too old, my eyes too bad to try and read your chicken scratch". Mind you, this was pre-internetasweknowit days, so it's not like I could google info (not that I would, but teachers gotta make sure folks don't cheat and stuff). To this day, I'd much rather tap out notes than write them... funny thing is, if I write them, I learn them a lot better than tapping them. If I do neither, the info could very well pass from one ear, and out the other.


lisah - Sep 10, 2008 8:26:32 am PDT #5109 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Also, I do have to say I was wrong and disrespectful to do homework in other classes!

Thank the goodness for free periods in high school!


Connie Neil - Sep 10, 2008 8:29:15 am PDT #5110 of 10001
brillig

When I watch "Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader" I am absolutely boggled at what is being taught in 5th and below. I would swear we didn't see some of that stuff when I was in school.


Kathy A - Sep 10, 2008 8:33:04 am PDT #5111 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My nephew was one of those "skip the homework, ace the test" kids in school, too, but he found out it bit him in the ass this past year when he couldn't get into the school he wanted because of his grades being so low from lack of homework.

I think college will be much more his style, but his major, computer programming, is still going to require lots of homework to be turned in.


Trudy Booth - Sep 10, 2008 8:40:21 am PDT #5112 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

My first college had a strict attendance policy and you could be flunked for missing... three? four? not sure.

Anyway, I had a friend who missed class religiously and then would beg and plead the professor to take the exam anyway. And he would ace the exam. And they'd give him a C because you can't really flunk a guy who aced the exam, but since he'd done dead nothing all semester he wasn't getting anything but a pass.


Trudy Booth - Sep 10, 2008 9:08:50 am PDT #5113 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

OMG WHERE ARE YOU PEOPLE?!?!?!


Atropa - Sep 10, 2008 9:15:28 am PDT #5114 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

You know what I hated worse? There were teachers I had who made us pass in our notes, to make sure we were taking notes. Didn't matter if you aced the test if you didn't do enough notes.

What?! Oh lord, I would have failed EVERYTHING. Because my notes were some important words or phrases, surrounded by song lyrics by Adam Ant and Duran Duran.