That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.

Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Spike's Bitches 42: Which question do you want me to answer first?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Barb - Sep 03, 2008 1:40:08 pm PDT #4244 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

And honestly, asking the students to provide their own computers is pretty damn ridiculous too. Especially in middle school!

Not even middle school. Elementary school. Abby's in 5th grade. And her classroom is in a glorified doublewide portable-- even more NO in this mom's eyes, re: leaving the computer there overnight.


Daisy Jane - Sep 03, 2008 1:40:30 pm PDT #4245 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Congrats, omnis! Geri and I were just talking about getting a group to go see it. We're thinking probably weekend after this one. Geri and Amy have the TACA gala this weekend.

Also, I'm sad to see that it runs through the 28th, which means you'll miss the Grapevine's anniversary party and Jon's mad BBQ skills.


Cashmere - Sep 03, 2008 1:40:49 pm PDT #4246 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Barb, why did they prefer the kids to leave them? I mean, who else would be using them? Why wouldn't they assume the kids would need to use their laptops at home? WTF? That's completely ridiculous and insane for them to suggest that. When we lived in Columbus, our neighborhood newspaper's police report was chock filled with lists of stolen items from the elementary, middle and high schools: musical instruments, cell phones, iPods, etc. What idiot would think it would be safe to leave the computers in the classroom?


Barb - Sep 03, 2008 1:46:17 pm PDT #4247 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

What idiot would think it would be safe to leave the computers in the classroom?

This teacher isn't the most sensible on the planet, I'm discovering, Cash. I think it's more for her convenience-- if the kids leave the computers at school, then they can't forget them the next day, ergo, not inconveniencing her. At least, that's the vibe I got. There was never any clear explanation given-- this teacher is big on giving directives without fully explaining herself. Like when we got the email on Monday night that informed us when the class was done with patrol duty next week (each fifth grade class takes a two week turn at being the school patrol) that she would expect the kids to be in class no later than 8:15 in the morning.

One problem with this-- school doesn't officially start until 8:30 and Abby's bus doesn't even pick her up until 8:14. So I emailed the teacher and informed her that Abby would be in class as soon as possible after the bus dropped her off. I'm not going to make myself crazy in the insanely long drop-off line just to have her there fifteen minutes early. And I hope to hell she doesn't penalize Abby for not being there that fifteen minutes early. It's bound to get ugly then.


SailAweigh - Sep 03, 2008 1:49:04 pm PDT #4248 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

And, I have to ask, what are they doing on the computers that can't be done without one? If learning how to use a computer is part of the curriculum, then they damn well ought to provide the computers or not have the class.

Also, a pet peeve of mine, students shouldn't be using advanced technology in school until they have mastered the basics. Which, sorry, a fifth grader has not. I got really pissed off when my daughter's sixth grade math class insisted on everyone having a calculator for class. BS. If a student doesn't know how to do the math without using a calculator you're not doing them any favors. If they're using one to save time, then you're trying to teach them more information than they can retain, which is counterproductive. Ghod knows, being able to do all my own math saved me on any number of exams where my calculator was deemed illegal for having forbidden functions on it.


Daisy Jane - Sep 03, 2008 1:53:13 pm PDT #4249 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Cute! Kinda disturbing, but cute animation. Death Kitty and Fatman [link]


Barb - Sep 03, 2008 1:54:05 pm PDT #4250 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

And, I have to ask, what are they doing on the computers that can't be done without one? If learning how to use a computer is part of the curriculum, then they damn well ought to provide the computers or not have the class.

Agreed, sail, but you have to keep in mind-- upper middle class 'burb and a gifted class to boot. There's a lot these parents expect in the name of getting the "best" education for their students. There were parents who were offended that the kids didn't use the computers that much last year in fourth grade. @@

At least they're learning some useful things with respect to research and organizing notes and creating presentations for projects. The research, in particular, I think is extremely valuable, since it would appear that the "searching the stacks" method of research is quickly going the way of the dodo bird.

(Although I had the highly satisfying experience of being able to present Nate with his choice of three world atlases from our home library after the child had forgotten to bring home his social studies textbook.)


meara - Sep 03, 2008 1:56:35 pm PDT #4251 of 10001

And I hope to hell she doesn't penalize Abby for not being there that fifteen minutes early. It's bound to get ugly then.

Oh hell no. Yeah, that's when I'd get ugly. The bus takes my kid to school. You want my kid there earlier, you can come get her. Otherwise, fuck off. Does she think all families have a parent who is able and eager to adapt their schedule to whatever the teacher wants?? Lordy.


Laura - Sep 03, 2008 1:59:21 pm PDT #4252 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Then the teacher tried to tell Abby she thought it would be quite the hardship for Abby to tote her laptop to and from school each day.

Insane! Then again, I would not let my HS son take his laptop to school. I'm not going to be repairing the thing every other week. (also, he would never get off WoW if he had it with him)

In not news, Owen going off to school on the bus is insanely cute.

I became a great aunt again this morning at 5:40am. Savannah was a healthy 8lb. 5oz. No pictures yet. My brother needs to get with the uploading.


brenda m - Sep 03, 2008 2:00:46 pm PDT #4253 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That is insane. Both the computers and the time.