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Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Sep 09, 2008 7:18:09 am PDT #7905 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Peanut butter and bananas on toast (Hi PixKristin!) to add:

Happy Birthday Nutty!


Steph L. - Sep 09, 2008 7:24:35 am PDT #7906 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

a calorie is a calorie in terms of weight gain, since weight loss is a result of expending more calories than you take in.

On the most simple level, that's true in a laboratory. However, studies have shown that calories often don't work that simplistically in people, for a variety of reasons, including: hormone levels; medications a person is taking; metabolic damage caused by previous attempts to diet, etc.

Unfortunately -- and I say this as a fat person who wouldn't complain if I were less fat -- the human body isn't a lab-calibrated calorimeter.

Also, and I don't want to discourage Alibelle or anyone else from dieting if that's what they want to do, but diets don't work. It's been proven, repeatedly, that over 95% of people who lose any amount of weight on a diet -- and I mean as little as 2 pounds -- cannot maintain the weight loss for longer than 5 years.

I'm not trying to jump on my fat acceptance soapbox; I just want to note that weight loss, and the maintenance of same, is very VERY hard.


megan walker - Sep 09, 2008 7:31:09 am PDT #7907 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

However, studies have shown that calories often don't work that simplistically in people, for a variety of reasons, including: hormone levels; medications a person is taking; metabolic damage caused by previous attempts to diet, etc.

Right, but do those things lead your body to process a hamburger calorie different from a broccoli calorie? Or does it mean you process calories as a whole differently than other people?


Calli - Sep 09, 2008 7:32:58 am PDT #7908 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Happy Birthday, Nutty!

The farmworkers told deputies the suspect woke them Saturday morning by rubbing spices on one of them and smacking the other with an 8-inch sausage.

Am I the only one wondering which spices were used? Really? OK.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 09, 2008 7:44:55 am PDT #7909 of 10003
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Am I the only one wondering which spices were used? Really? OK.

No. No, you're not. Also - what kind of sausage?


Aims - Sep 09, 2008 7:53:41 am PDT #7910 of 10003
Shit's all sorts of different now.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NUTTY!!!


Sophia Brooks - Sep 09, 2008 8:03:11 am PDT #7911 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Happy Birthday Nutty!

Also, What Steph Said.

Also, I am about to go on a killing spree at work.


Cashmere - Sep 09, 2008 8:05:21 am PDT #7912 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm not trying to jump on my fat acceptance soapbox; I just want to note that weight loss, and the maintenance of same, is very VERY hard.

I've stopped thinking about losing weight. I still go to the gym about five times a week. And I try to be reasonable about my diet (I'm not eating all these pies I'm making, I've given some away). I feel AMAZING just with the working out (and not for 3-4 hours, either, sometimes, just as little as a half an hour can feel good).

That's the metric I'm using--how good I feel. If I happen to lose some weight, yippee. If not, I still feel pretty damn good.


Allyson - Sep 09, 2008 8:12:20 am PDT #7913 of 10003
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Also, and I don't want to discourage Alibelle or anyone else from dieting if that's what they want to do, but diets don't work. It's been proven, repeatedly, that over 95% of people who lose any amount of weight on a diet -- and I mean as little as 2 pounds -- cannot maintain the weight loss for longer than 5 years.

But I don't want to look like this anymore. I mean, there's changing a diet, but are my workouts futile as well?


Ginger - Sep 09, 2008 8:15:24 am PDT #7914 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Right, but do those things lead your body to process a hamburger calorie different from a broccoli calorie?

There is some evidence that simple carbohydrates cause more weight gain than their equivalent calories in protein and fat, possibly because they trigger an increase of insulin in the blood stream.