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Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Sep 03, 2008 6:30:04 am PDT #6799 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm thinking this particular woman was a matter of creating a distraction from the issues at hand. Rove loves that shit and he is very good at it.


amych - Sep 03, 2008 6:31:15 am PDT #6800 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

And quite frankly, none of them are sufficiently conservative, by wingnut terms. And this pick was all about the wingnuts.

I had a whole writeup about each of 'em, but Brenda said it better in two sentences.


Typo Boy - Sep 03, 2008 6:39:06 am PDT #6801 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I agree that the lack of vetting is an issue. Among the things he missed: Palin's support for the bridge to nowhere, earmarks and Ted Stevens, her ties to an extremist Alaskan Independence Movement which included a video wishing them well and supporting the "good work" they do this year, Troopergate and the fact that Palin engaged in similar abuse of power as Mayor. Also it is clear not only from what they missed that no vetting was done, but that no records searches were done in major city and press records that were not on-line. Also, even without vetting, she was clearly unqualified. But this to me still has nothing to do with the pregnancy. Her daughter's pregnancy has nothing to do with her qualifications. Would her insistence that sex education should lie to kids have been more valid if her daughter had not gotten pregnant?


Theodosia - Sep 03, 2008 6:40:02 am PDT #6802 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You know, I'd be seriously dismayed if Palin were picked as CEO of my (mythical) employer, let alone VP-likely-to-be-Prez.


amych - Sep 03, 2008 6:42:21 am PDT #6803 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Her daughter's pregnancy has nothing to do with her qualifications.

I haven't seen anyone here argue otherwise.


Typo Boy - Sep 03, 2008 6:47:57 am PDT #6804 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I haven't seen anyone here argue otherwise.

Megan Walker upthread - as a distraction from ability to do their job.


Allyson - Sep 03, 2008 6:52:33 am PDT #6805 of 10003
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Well, there is the irony of the fact that she vetoed funding for homes and training for young unwed mothers. There's a distinct lack of any ability to feel empathy or do the right thing for her constituency, there.


amych - Sep 03, 2008 6:54:05 am PDT #6806 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Well, there is the irony of the fact that she vetoed funding for homes and training for young unwed mothers. There's a distinct lack of any ability to feel empathy or do the right thing for her constituency, there.

Oh, yes. That, I think, is quite appropriate as both a policy matter and a character question.


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Gudanov - Sep 03, 2008 6:59:46 am PDT #6808 of 10003
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Well, there is the irony of the fact that she vetoed funding for homes and training for young unwed mothers. There's a distinct lack of any ability to feel empathy or do the right thing for her constituency, there.

Or a determination to let the family and/or church handle it instead of having the government get involved. Her family is an example of handling the situation the right way, without the government or taxpayers dollars getting involved.