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Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Aug 26, 2008 10:56:49 am PDT #5489 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm sure if you had, say, ten individual decathlon medals along with the "all around" we have now Spitz's record could have been broken that way.

Aren't there? I mean, aren't there individual medals for most if not all of the pieces that make up decathalon?


DavidS - Aug 26, 2008 10:57:08 am PDT #5490 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but either free or fly seems most likely.

Pretty sure it's the freestyle since he won the 100M free.


amych - Aug 26, 2008 10:59:05 am PDT #5491 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Pretty sure it's the freestyle since he won the 100M free.

He also won the 100M fly, is what I'm saying. (At a guess, I'd actually also say free since that's the stroke he's most remembered for. But if he were even competent at breast or back, he'd've been doing IM too. But not the instant messaging kind. Not in 1972.)

(eta: also, by "competent" I mean "world class", not, say, "failing to drown")


Trudy Booth - Aug 26, 2008 10:59:32 am PDT #5492 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Wikipedia is strangely silent about which stroke he did in that last medley, but either free or fly seems most likely.

OK, maybe my half-rememberd stat is that Spitz did it in two strokes (free & fly) and Phelps in all four (turns out one medal was an IM).


Trudy Booth - Aug 26, 2008 11:01:22 am PDT #5493 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Aren't there? I mean, aren't there individual medals for most if not all of the pieces that make up decathalon?

They're all individual events, but they're contested by different athletes entirely.

I'm not sure if that's always been the case.


sumi - Aug 26, 2008 11:02:59 am PDT #5494 of 10003
Art Crawl!!!

You know Eric Heiden is an orthopedic surgeon now?


DavidS - Aug 26, 2008 11:04:38 am PDT #5495 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

He also won the 100M fly, is what I'm saying.

Yeah, but the fastest guy in the free is faster than the fastest guy in the fly. So in a medley relay you'd want the fastest freestyler over the fastest flyguy.

Unless.. you were so much faster in the fly than your nearest competitor that you'd stretch the lead more there. But I don't think that was the case.


DavidS - Aug 26, 2008 11:05:16 am PDT #5496 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You know Eric Heiden is an orthopedic surgeon now?

I did know that. I also recall that he tried to make the summer olympics as a bicyclist.


brenda m - Aug 26, 2008 11:06:45 am PDT #5497 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

They're all individual events, but they're contested by different athletes entirely.

Well, right. So the opportunity is there, if one were to reach those levels of proficiency, it's just that that's a seriously hard thing t do. There's more overlap in the skills from one event to the next in swimming/gymnastics, for sure. Or I suppose I should say, evidently - that's a good question about whether that level of specialization in track and field is a recent development.


sumi - Aug 26, 2008 11:07:20 am PDT #5498 of 10003
Art Crawl!!!

The bicyling/speed skating thing is less uncommon than you might thing. (As in, I recall somebody else did that and it was somebody not named Beth Heiden.)