I don't give a good gorram about relevant, Wash. Or objective. And I ain't so afraid of losing something that I ain't gonna try to have it. You and I would make one beautiful baby. And I want to meet that child one day. Period.

Zoe ,'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Aug 25, 2008 3:08:12 pm PDT #5331 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Nope -- the equestrian phase of modern pentathlon is show jumping (and the fencing is epee, which depends less on the referee than the other two). But it's not a track and field event -- that -athlon is the heptathlon, which is a decathlon for weak delicate females.

To answer the fencing question, two of the three weapons depend on a ref to make right-of-way calls, but it's not subjective scoring in the same way that diving or gymnastics are. There are no style points or degrees of right or wrong. It's more like baseball depending an umpire to call balls and strikes: this or that person started their attack first, so their hit counts according to the rules.

In epee, there's no issue of who attacked first, so the ref is a bit more like a basketball ref. A lot like a basketball ref, in fact: Did you step out of bounds? And did you elbow your opponent in the face, or did he fall down and pretend you did in order to draw a call?

Boxing and TKD both depend on electric scoring systems to register hits to legal targets, and judges to watch for rules violations and validate that the hits are good (so that only solid hits and not glancing blows count, frex).


megan walker - Aug 25, 2008 3:17:46 pm PDT #5332 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Thanks amych, that's very helpful.


Gadget_Girl - Aug 25, 2008 3:22:31 pm PDT #5333 of 10003
Just call me "Siouxsie Shunshine".

Barb - that jacket is made of awesomeness!

2) The dress, in fact, decidedly did NOT look good on her.

HA! This is amazing.

Hub recreated out first date when he proposed. It was very thoughtful, sweet and not at all sappy or overdone. It did involve proposing at a restaurant, though. He got down on one knee and was half way though his proposal someone we didn't know yelled "just say yes! the Gators are about to score".

I still think Hub is pretty amazing. When I got home today he came the car to help me with my stuff and had a glass of wine and the latest copy of "Gothic Beauty" waiting. I keep telling him, I might have to keep him around.


amych - Aug 25, 2008 3:25:56 pm PDT #5334 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

You're very welcome. I can (unsurprisingly) go on at great and boring length about this stuff, but I always like to be able to find reasonably understandable ways to explain it to non-fencers.


Theodosia - Aug 25, 2008 3:28:59 pm PDT #5335 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Boxing used to be based on knockouts, but Olympic-approved boxing includes padded helmets and relies more on judges awarding points, all in the interests of actually not permanently harming the athletes.


megan walker - Aug 25, 2008 3:32:18 pm PDT #5336 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Boxing used to be based on knockouts, but Olympic-approved boxing includes padded helmets and relies more on judges awarding points, all in the interests of actually not permanently harming the athletes.

Is it mostly objective though?

Did anybody watch BMX? It seems like a race, but the results are given as points so I can't tell.


amych - Aug 25, 2008 3:39:26 pm PDT #5337 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Boxing used to be based on knockouts, but Olympic-approved boxing includes padded helmets and relies more on judges awarding points, all in the interests of actually not permanently harming the athletes.

Not exactly true -- many, many boxing bouts, both pro and amateur, have always been decided on points without ever seeing a knockout, especially in the lower weight classes. And KOs are certainly possible even with headgear. But that said, headgear is a fine thing if you want to avoid brain damage.

No help on BMX, I'm afraid.


juliana - Aug 25, 2008 3:43:50 pm PDT #5338 of 10003
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Olympic BMX scoring is... kinda complicated, but it's based on the fact in regular BMX, riders accumulate points over many races, and your point total determines your competition level.

I think.


amych - Aug 25, 2008 3:46:28 pm PDT #5339 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think this needs to be an Olympic event.


sarameg - Aug 25, 2008 4:09:30 pm PDT #5340 of 10003

I have a choice between the DNC and the Toughest Jobs or something that has already made me nearly hurl.

Guess which I'm watching.