Everyone's getting spanked but me.

Willow ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Jul 28, 2008 1:32:57 pm PDT #52 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I'm not sure I want NF in eyeliner. What I was contemplated earlier today was NF having a guest spot on FNL and I nearly LOST MY SHIT.

Not NF, just men in eyeliner, like the wet men, men in glasses and men in skirts. (Note that I will not actually request this, for ita is benevolent and I totally appreciate all the pretty she's already provided).

To the last part: YES!


Toddson - Jul 28, 2008 1:33:14 pm PDT #53 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

A local county has passed regulations requiring decent treatment for live-in nannies, etc. There have been some truly horrendous cases of women, usually brought from another country, being held in virtual slavery.


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2008 1:35:44 pm PDT #54 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I didn't have to make my own bed weekdays until I was 12. I'm not sure when I'd have had to start if we hadn't left Jamaica. And I've still never done my laundry on the island. The arrangement confuses me. Besides, the lady gets paid.


Toddson - Jul 28, 2008 1:39:07 pm PDT #55 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

msbelle, I don't think what you're asking mac to do is unreasonable, but my upbringing wasn't exactly the norm. But getting dressed, etc., isn't exactly child abuse.

Ironically, since my mother truly hated housework, I was pretty much running the house by the time I was 14 (laundry, ironing, dusting, vacuuming, cleaning up, setting and clearing the table, washing and drying dishes). When I went to college at 17, I didn't have any of that, except for my own room ... and we had maids who would dust and vacuum once a week (it was heaven).


lisah - Jul 28, 2008 1:39:53 pm PDT #56 of 10003
Punishingly Intricate

I've never had to make my own bed!!! (My parents didn't care if it was made or not)


flea - Jul 28, 2008 1:42:40 pm PDT #57 of 10003
information libertarian

I could never really appreciate Katharine Graham, accomplishments and all, after reading in her autobiography that when she went to college she didn't wash her clothes for the first semester (cashmere sweaters were the item described I think), not because she didn't know how to wash them, but because she didn't realize that at home they had been taken away by the maid and washed and returned to her drawers. Not knowing how to wash sweaters is one level of privilege, but not *noticing* that someone is washing your clothes for you is a whole 'nother level of privilege. And I just couldn't get over it.


msbelle - Jul 28, 2008 1:43:06 pm PDT #58 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

yeah, I don't care about a made bed unless a guest is coming over.


Theodosia - Jul 28, 2008 1:44:06 pm PDT #59 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I wonder how much an au pair costs, anyway. I don't have kids, but I do have cats, and lots of small jobs around the house....


amych - Jul 28, 2008 1:46:40 pm PDT #60 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I don't care about a made bed unless a guest is coming over.

It cracks S. up that I always want to make the bed for parties. "But the door will be closed the entire time." "But someone always gets lost and opens the wrong door on the way to the bathroom!"


Toddson - Jul 28, 2008 1:47:20 pm PDT #61 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I find it interesting in how "au pair" is described these days. When I was in my teens (OK, a long time ago) au pairs were European girls who came to the U.S. for a summer and were "mother's helpers" - they'd provide back-up child care, a little light housework; they were here to improve their English, earn a little money, see a little of the world. Now au pair seems to mean nanny/housekeeper and it's a full-time, long term job.