I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Jul 28, 2008 8:54:06 am PDT #9930 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

My cousin's grandmother came from an old money German Jewish family that had run into hard times in her youth (~1900) when her father joined an anarchist society and gave away all the family money. Her mother left him, but Hard Times ensued for the rest of her youth -- eventually she got into Vassar on scholarship and married well. (I.E. not just a prosperous guy but a real swell fellow.)

I don't suppose it's surprising I came away with all sorts of expectations about what being Jewish was "like", which took me a while to realize that in fact I was basing it on a very small sample.


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2008 8:54:10 am PDT #9931 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

WASPs don't drink what we drink, shall we say.

Unrelatedly, I love this top corset. Colour's a bit blah, but otherwise it gives me shivers of delight.


msbelle - Jul 28, 2008 8:58:31 am PDT #9932 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Interesting to read all this.

Staunchly middle class with all the puritanical farmer class holdings. Old things were rarely seen as worth holding on to (there was no wealth so things were just old, not valuable), but flashy new things or spending beyond one's means would be tacky and not practical or godly.

I think my generation is the first to value the old and also to get some exposure to real class difference. Still there it is pretty limited.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 28, 2008 8:59:28 am PDT #9933 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I come from dirty city Irish on my dad's side and rural hick French-Lithuanian on my mom's side. We are SO not WASPS. I find it funny that I married TomW who is like the demographic epidome of WASP but is actually NSM culturally.

My parents like to pretend he is Scottish rather than British.


P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2008 9:06:23 am PDT #9934 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Unrelated to anything, I just made the o.0 face at this article headline: Hummers and the love that dares not speak its name.

(It's about the auto, not the action.)


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2008 9:07:35 am PDT #9935 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was just thinking about Hummers yesterday (about the auto, not the action). Not as trendy as they used to be, huh? I wonder how much of a punch in the gut gassing one of those up for daily use is these days.


tommyrot - Jul 28, 2008 9:09:12 am PDT #9936 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

GM is supposedly considering selling or shutting down the Hummer line.


P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2008 9:11:40 am PDT #9937 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Not large enough for some people: [link]

Maybe I can go punch 'em myself.

I get kind of nauseated by the talk of the right and proper way to spend money (having grown up with none in a fairly wealthy area, and having Huge Honkin' Issues where I'm often afraid that those who Have are sneering at my tacky, tacky, classless self), but I think most people can agree that Hummers are tacky, no matter where you stand on where the TV stand goes.


tommyrot - Jul 28, 2008 9:13:35 am PDT #9938 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think I'm too tired - I can't decide if this is cool or not:

Famous historical beheadings recreated with mantises

Artist Judith G. Klausner (a.k.a. Rogue Entomologist) has used mantises (infamous for the females' habit of biting off the heads of their mates) to stage several well-known scenes of women beheading men. Right now, she has the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland (also viewable in 3D!) and the biblical story of Judith and Holofernes. The costumes in particular are incredible -- lots of great detail work at a very small scale.

The queen mantis does have a pretty dress....


msbelle - Jul 28, 2008 9:16:18 am PDT #9939 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb