A ghost? What's the deal? Is every frat on this campus haunted? And if so, why do people keep coming to these parties, cause it's not the snacks.

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sumi - Jul 28, 2008 4:08:16 am PDT #9843 of 10003
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, today is Beatrix Potter's birthday! And Google has a matching theme.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 28, 2008 4:12:12 am PDT #9844 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Nope. We were talking about the move with husband's aunt, and she was horrified that the per diem for meals was $39/day. How could anyone possibly eat three meals for that little! The tax! The tip!

We had an instructor who we paid meals for and we just told her to be reasonable and it ended up being about $90 per day. My boss was horrified, so we have had to put a cap on the per diem as well (it is actually $39)


Nora Deirdre - Jul 28, 2008 4:47:03 am PDT #9845 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

This weekend we had a married couple over- the husband is one of my oldest friends, back from when we were in high school, and we've stayed friends for the last 20 years. We got into this big discussion about how Tom and I don't have any "normal" food around, stuff that isn't bought from Trader Joes or Whole Foods or organic from the farm.

I know I definitely didn't grow up like that but we've made some choices regarding the way we want to buy and eat food, and the fact that we have 2 incomes and no kids helps us to achieve that. (Also the fact that we like to and have time to cook so that we are actually purchasing mostly "raw" ingredients instead of the crazy expensive WF prepared foods or whatever.)

I am certainly aware of the privilege that this is, pretty much because it is such a change from the way I grew up (and ate well into my 20s).

Food is so fraught with issues and emotion. Crazy!


Dana - Jul 28, 2008 5:02:14 am PDT #9846 of 10003
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Someone is supposed to pick up husband's car between 8-10 today.

They'll probably show up at 10, won't they.


Jesse - Jul 28, 2008 5:17:23 am PDT #9847 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Since they apparently didn't show up at 7:45, yes.

I just got a totally random Facebook friending from a high school person! Hilarious.


msbelle - Jul 28, 2008 5:20:02 am PDT #9848 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Dana, my guess would be either 7:30 or 10:05.

So the plumber came and measured. We are getting the CadetIII (thanks Plei!). It looks like it will be $800 with parts and labor. Le sigh.

Maybe I should have people over when it is done - a new toilet party - to really test it out.


P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2008 5:48:45 am PDT #9849 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

7/8ths of my family is decidedly working class. Then there's the 1/8th that's actually painfully easy to research, and includes the dude who wrote the worst poem ever published in the English language.

I have a fraught relationship with class. A lot of what's considered polite or good manners was expressly rejected by my father, who (due to his own issues with his mother and the grandmother who represented the 1/8th above) saw it all as the worst sort of sophistry. (While still being the only one of his siblings to go on to university.) My mother's an odd duck, and agreed.

A lot of my childhood was spent getting into trouble with teachers and fellow students and their parents for things that were acceptable or encouraged at home.

Like I've said, I was raised by wolves.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 28, 2008 5:55:48 am PDT #9850 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I've definitely learned the hard way about etiquette niceties that just wasn't part of my world growing up.

I got a funny email from my aforementioned friend:

We had a most excellent time. I may mock your organic, farm fresh, Whole Foods style, but damn do I love to eat it!


beth b - Jul 28, 2008 6:03:09 am PDT #9851 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I never really though about it. I always thought of it as an adventurous/non adventurous way of looking at life. My mom's family is more working class-- she didn't go to college, but one sister did.Her family eats a lot of food that they can grow or catch.actually they eat fairly broadly if not exotically . Dad's family is middle class, but very boring eaters. Matt family ate well but with a leaning to the german side.

I know my family changed because 1) my mom didn't cook and therefore had no reason not to try something and2) my dad was flying all over the word and he brought home ideas. When I started cooking -- I pushed it further with a lot of vegetarian dishes. For Matt and his brothers, the change came when Matt got a job in a french restaurant -- he learned to cook from the chef. All of us tend to be foodies now, and some cousins are and some are not.


beth b - Jul 28, 2008 6:10:48 am PDT #9852 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Manners: we had kitchen table manners and dinning room table manners. There were even different levels of formality when dad was home than when he wasn't. Very greatful for this. It means that even if I am not comfortable in a situation I can fake it. and I seem to know instinctively which is which. I swear that manners are a survival tool.

eta: I even bought a fun cartoony manners book when I was a kid. that's a bit weird.