I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Jul 26, 2008 7:45:04 am PDT #9644 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

Happy birthday to Kat!

This makes me unreasonably happy!

How awesome to get a quarter back too.


Gadget_Girl - Jul 26, 2008 8:01:12 am PDT #9645 of 10003
Just call me "Siouxsie Shunshine".

Happy Birthday, Kat!


meara - Jul 26, 2008 9:25:59 am PDT #9646 of 10003

Because what romance considers "alternative" vs. what's truly alternative are no doubt quite different.

Yeah, I picked one up in the bookstore the other day (it was one of those crossover paranormal/scifi/romance ones--I think in this instance it was shelved in scifi). And after reading about half of it (what? I read fast!) I knew there was no way in hell I was ever buying it. Because it seriously sounded like the author had written something, and then someone had said "You know, this would sell a LOT better if you made it KINKY!!" and she had held her nose and put in some kinkiness, hating it the whole time, and being really annoyed. Because it had this whole tone where it was supposed to be hot or something, but meanwhile the character was all against it, or some shit, and basically it was just not hot, and really really came off condescending. I was offended. As someone who does kink.


Barb - Jul 26, 2008 9:35:15 am PDT #9647 of 10003
“Not dead yet!”

There's this huge pervasiveness throughout romance right now, meara, where the idea of resisting or submitting is HUGE. Which is pissing me off because it's presented with the veneer of the woman claiming her sexual strength through that act. And I don't deny that it's possible, but over and over and for example over?

Linda Howard, who writes romantic suspense and is one of the loveliest (not to mention strongest) women I've ever met, has the unfortunate habit of writing what I call "No Foreplay" sex scenes. The guy is huge (of course) and they'll inevitably wind up doing the deed during some suspenseful moment (because, really isn't that what we all want to do when our lives are on the line?) and so they don't have TIME for foreplay and he's just a'shovin' on in. In this latest one, she whimpered because of the no foreplay thing and not being ready and she SHUSHED her. That's the point the book hit the wall for me.

I'm gearing up for a bit of a fight with my publisher because she told my editor that my lead character in the book is "just so strong, we need to see more of her emotional vulnerability, otherwise readers won't connect to her."

Which, okay, I can dig the wanting a bit more emotional vulnerability part, but the thing about readers not being able to connect with her because she's so strong? WTF?? I mean, Jesus H-- the character is based on Bizet's Carmen-- hello, talk about a strong character. At least my girl's not amoral.


Nilly - Jul 26, 2008 9:44:30 am PDT #9648 of 10003
Swouncing

Skipping - and, yeah, ignoring ongoing conversations - to post that, according to the Buffista Calendar, today is Kat's birthday.

Happy birthday, Kat! With lots of wishes for a great day and a wonderful year!


P.M. Marc - Jul 26, 2008 10:02:33 am PDT #9649 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Happy birthday, Kat.

I don't think raspberries hold up as well with that kind of cooking (hence no raspberry pie).

I have had raspberry pie. It is good.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 26, 2008 10:04:00 am PDT #9650 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Happy Birthday Kat!


Pix - Jul 26, 2008 10:04:51 am PDT #9651 of 10003
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Happy Birthday, Kat! I hope you a have a wonderful, grading-free day.


Steph L. - Jul 26, 2008 10:10:23 am PDT #9652 of 10003
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I'm gearing up for a bit of a fight with my publisher because she told my editor that my lead character in the book is "just so strong, we need to see more of her emotional vulnerability, otherwise readers won't connect to her."

Write a scene where she stabs someone in the head and then feels really really bad about it afterwards. That's vulnerable, right????

(I would do a winky emoticon here if I emoticon-ed. Which I don't.)


Barb - Jul 26, 2008 10:11:13 am PDT #9653 of 10003
“Not dead yet!”

Write a scene where she stabs someone in the head and then feels really really bad about it afterwards. That's vulnerable, right????

::hearts Teppy::