I'm not on the ship. I'm in the ship. I am the ship.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - Jun 03, 2008 5:01:03 pm PDT #881 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Honestly, I don't want her anywhere near the ticket, but then, things like this: [link] makes me cranky.


brenda m - Jun 03, 2008 5:02:07 pm PDT #882 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If that was her intent (to end the campaign, but hold open her personal options) then I think it's even more of a wasted opportunity, frankly.

Feh. I think part of the reason I find this so frustrating is that I feel strongly that this was her best shot to go out on a really high note. I mean, it's over either way, but I guess I was hoping for more tonight.


Susan W. - Jun 03, 2008 5:04:07 pm PDT #883 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Honestly, I don't want her anywhere near the ticket, but then, things like this: [link] makes me cranky.

Me too. I don't know how much I believe that--but I've got plenty of other grudges, not least that her so-called popular vote margin doesn't even include my STATE.


javachik - Jun 03, 2008 5:05:59 pm PDT #884 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

Personally, I'm still crazy pissed and bitter at Gore for conceding when HE HAD WON. I have no problems with Hillary sticking it out until the absolute complete last second. Which Gore totally should have done. I realize a lot of people feel like it's hurting party unity, but for me, not so much. I was rooting for Hillary, but I will have no problems supporting Obama come November because Hillary waits one more day to concede. It's not like it's going to make me a big McCain fan somehow.

The issue is that until the Dems decide, McCain gets to go around looking "presidential" and honing every single aspect of his campaign. And the Dems aren't able to focus themselves and concentrate on positioning themselves against the Republicans. Every minute they spend fighting amongst themselves is a minute lost in the battle against the Republicans.


dcp - Jun 03, 2008 5:07:00 pm PDT #885 of 10003
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

From way back....

I'm still confused by guys called Shir (which becomes more and more common).

My Dad's middle name is Sheridan, and he has been called Sherry since before he could crawl. When we were in Pakistan he shortened it to Sher, which means "Tiger" in Urdu and Hindi (naming the tiger in The Jungle Book "Shere Khan" was a pretty lame pun). When my little brother Sheridan was born, I thought the perfect nickname for him would be "Bubba Sher," which means "Lion" and was also a nod to our Arkansas roots, but the rest of the family thought it was an equally lame pun, and I couldn't make it stick.

What's the hivemind got to say about sports drinks? I couldn't choke Gatorade down even after the triathlon in 100 degree heat.

Original yellow Gatorade is nasty. Red (fruit punch) Gatorade is the good stuff. It tastes like I always thought Kool-Aid was supposed to taste, but didn't. More than about half a liter will give me heartburn, though.

I've never worked up the nerve to try the blue Gatorade. Blue is for windshield wiper fluid, not drinking!

Water is gross. I hate the way it tastes.

Water does have a taste. Even distilled water. I love the way good water tastes, and hate the taste of chlorinated water.

When I have a fever the taste of water changes to slightly sweet.

The first time I ever saw the ocean, I just had to go taste it, to see if it was salty the way everyone had said. (What? I was seven.)

I found a diet soda w/o caffeine that I liked just this weekend: A&W diet root beer.

IBC root beer -- diet or regular, doesn't matter -- is my One True Root Beer. No caffeine, either. Give it a try....


Typo Boy - Jun 03, 2008 5:07:41 pm PDT #886 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I don't hold it against her that she stayed in the race. But, among other things, I hold it against her that she focused not on trying to persuade people how good she was, but on making bullshit claims to undermine the legitimacy of Obama's victories, including (as Susan said) a nonsensical popular vote claim that did not count the state I live and vote in.


brenda m - Jun 03, 2008 5:09:29 pm PDT #887 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Here comes Obama.


brenda m - Jun 03, 2008 5:10:42 pm PDT #888 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Aw, Barack and Michelle just did a little fist bump as she left the stage. So cute.


Polter-Cow - Jun 03, 2008 5:11:52 pm PDT #889 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

When we were in Pakistan he shortened it to Sher, which means "Tiger" in Urdu and Hindi (naming the tiger in The Jungle Book "Shere Khan" was a pretty lame pun).

How is "Shere Khan" a pun if the name literally translates to "King of the Tigers" and means nothing else?


Alibelle - Jun 03, 2008 5:12:29 pm PDT #890 of 10003
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Every minute they spend fighting amongst themselves is a minute lost in the battle against the Republicans.

I realize that I'm not really a swing voter, but really, if the last eight years haven't turned people off of the Republican party, or at least built some pretty large grudges for McCain to overcome so that he's starting already behind, then I don't see where they will be completely and totally sold on the McCain love to the point where Obama doesn't even get a chance to change their minds in the next five months. I just always feel like the "build the party unity!" vibes start from the person who wants the other to concede. Essentially, to me, it's one of those arguments that I don't really buy into, even though it, like most campaign "arguments" just gets repeated a lot.