Police procedure has changed since I was little.

Wash ,'The Message'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Jul 18, 2008 1:04:21 pm PDT #8491 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I live in the Bay Area which is admittedly hell for housing costs. But still, most of my friends managed to buy here.

Yeah, but maybe they have crazy-ass mortgages. Or are just generally living way beyond their means and accumulating massive credit card debt. It's hard to tell.

People are constantly calling in to Dave Ramsey owing tens of thousands on credit cards and cars for no good reason. Even though they make 50K or whatever, they just had to have a 35K new car and 4-bedroom house, even though they couldn't really afford it.


Kathy A - Jul 18, 2008 1:06:04 pm PDT #8492 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My parents definitely wanted us all to be happy, and they equate happiness with a career you enjoy, a paid-for house, and a family if you get one. They've resigned themselves to neither my sister nor I giving them any more grandkids except by marriage, but wouldn't mind it if I got married to someone I loved (neither would I!).


flea - Jul 18, 2008 1:08:28 pm PDT #8493 of 10003
information libertarian

I'd been envying my coworker, with whom we used to share a nanny, because they have a fancy house that they renovated, and kids were in private school, and the own art, and he races cars as a hobby, and I couldn't figure out how they did it on his 35-hour a week as an architect plus her 9-month appointment as an academic librarian salaries. Well, it turned out, their entire salaries were going to the mortgage and the private schools. Everything else turned out to be consumer debt! She's the one who said stuff like, "we cut back drinking wine and now we're only drinking 2 bottles a week and saving so much!" Now that they are seeing a financial planner, they are seriously considering selling the house and buying something smaller to repay the debts. And they aren't doing private school any more. And I'm not envious, either.


Kathy A - Jul 18, 2008 1:09:24 pm PDT #8494 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

People are constantly calling in to Dave Ramsey owing tens of thousands on credit cards and cars for no good reason. Even though they make 50K or whatever, they just had to have a 35K new car and 4-bedroom house, even though they couldn't really afford it.

This is where I'm way ahead of most people I know--my car should be paid off more than a year early, and my credit card is down to $200 as of today. (The only reason it was over $0 was because I finally got renters insurance last week, so I feel much safer right now. You never know when a fellow renter will fall asleep with a candle or cigarette lit and burn down the whole building, or for that matter if a tornado hits, my top-floor apartment would be the first to go.)


megan walker - Jul 18, 2008 1:16:47 pm PDT #8495 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I'm going to start bringing in my lunch to work starting tomorrow. I'm stopping by the grocery store tonight to fill up my fridge, and see how much I can save from doing that.

Food is practically my only discretionary spending right now and it still varies wildly. What I would really love is a cooking “cheaply” cookbook. Not for college students or the like, but a normal (good) cookbook that has that as an underlying philosophy. Anyone have any recs?


flea - Jul 18, 2008 1:22:44 pm PDT #8496 of 10003
information libertarian

I think there's a Craig Claiborne called Budget Gourmet or something? You already use Moosewood Cooks at Home, I know, which is my default "cheap cooking" book - no meat is cheaper, and there are a lot of basic recipes with eggs, canned beans, etc.


megan walker - Jul 18, 2008 1:28:12 pm PDT #8497 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

That's true. I should go back to that one. Aside from a few favorites, I haven't made much from it lately.

It's not really a problem for home--stuff like fried eggs and toast is comfort food for dinner. I'm more looking for things I can bring in to work easily.


§ ita § - Jul 18, 2008 1:29:24 pm PDT #8498 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure I know what I mean by making changes. I don't think it means budgeting more. What I need to start with is getting a direction. Well, what a great time for it, with job ending and all.

Hey, you can get COBRA at the end of a contract, right? You don't have to be laid off, or anything? Otherwise je suis screwée.


beth b - Jul 18, 2008 1:30:37 pm PDT #8499 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I am one of those bay area people with a crazy mortgage. Cars,well they are saturns. less expensive and reliable. We can not do the kind of travel javachick does. But -- we both like doing home improvement projects and I love working in the yard. It is great that Matt has a place to do projects. Even cleaning - because it is my house - isn't as bad as it used to feel. IOW,I love owning a home.

mw, haveyou looked at seasonal cookbooks? That probably the best plan


megan walker - Jul 18, 2008 1:32:30 pm PDT #8500 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Otherwise je suis screwée.

I think you mean je suis fuckée.

And I think you can get COBRA regardless (if your employers were providing health insurance).