Which is exactly my problem with the concept of "hate crime." Theft is theft.
Do you have a problem with pre-meditation? Murder is murder.
(Personally I go back and forth on the issue.)
Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.
Gunn ,'Power Play'
Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Trudy Booth - Jul 16, 2008 11:34:15 am PDT #8142 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
megan walker - Jul 16, 2008 11:36:16 am PDT #8143 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Do you have a problem with pre-meditation? Murder is murder.
If in each case, you deliberately murdered someone? No, I don't care if you planned it out or not.
ChiKat - Jul 16, 2008 11:36:29 am PDT #8144 of 10003
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
it does seem like they're trying to scoop me up before another department gets to me.
This is how it should be. I am so excited for you!!
Vortex - Jul 16, 2008 11:37:12 am PDT #8145 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Also, theft is (IIRC from law school) the taking of the property of another without their consent. The church gave the wafer to the kid, he didn't sneak into the vestry and take it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the church shouldn't have a problem with it (well, maybe I am, but I can see how they would), but calling this a hate crime is hyperbole. Plus, the removal of the wafer from the church as NOT motivated by bias, so IMNSHO, neither "hate" nor "crime" is applicable here.
tommyrot - Jul 16, 2008 11:37:37 am PDT #8146 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
from The Sun: S&M Barbie lashed by public
The doll’s image is transformed with kinky fishnets, motorcycle jacket, black gloves and boots.
Makers Mattel say Black Canary Barbie, out in September, is based on a DC comic superhero of the same name.
But religious group Christian Voice said: “Barbie has always been on the tarty side and this is taking it too far.
A children’s doll in sexually suggestive clothing is irresponsible – it’s filth.”
Go here for a picture: BDSM Black Canary Barbie
I think Black Canary Barbie is hot....
Miracleman - Jul 16, 2008 11:38:47 am PDT #8147 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Although you can charge someone with a crime against an entity (say, bank robbery), that law is clearly codified. Further, how was the church harmed by this?
Well, they do pay for the things.
t /Devil's Advocate's Intern
tommyrot - Jul 16, 2008 11:39:38 am PDT #8148 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Well, they do pay for the things.
Huh. I thought Jesus left them outside the door overnight.
Trudy Booth - Jul 16, 2008 11:39:57 am PDT #8149 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
If in each case, you deliberately murdered someone? No, I don't care if you planned it out or not.
So someone who tracks someone for a week or two and plans a way to kill them is the same as someone who, in the course of an argument, picks up a butcher knife?
Miracleman - Jul 16, 2008 11:40:44 am PDT #8150 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Huh. I thought Jesus left them outside the door overnight.
That's just silly.
Jesus can't bake. In fact, he sucks at it.
The Holy Spirit, I'm told, makes some kickass hash-brownies, though.
Steph L. - Jul 16, 2008 11:41:01 am PDT #8151 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism
While you are clearly expected to ingest the wafer in the church, there is no stated rule that you must.
I think that there is, but I don't remember. Not *rule,* rule, like No shoes, no soul, no service. But there is a rule (doctrine?) that non-Catholics cannot take Communion. And I don't bring that up as proof that one must consume the eucharist in the church; I only point it out to offer an example of a "rule" regarding Catholic Mass.
And I'm pretty sure that another rule is, If You Go Up To Take Communion, You Consume It Right Away.