Well, he also asked people to send him some some communion wafers so he could desecrate them, so I don't think it was just mentioning snackfoods that upset people.
No, PZ (whom I adore) was rude and obnoxious.
Buffy: How bored were you last year? Giles: I watched 'Passions' with Spike. Let us never speak of it.
'Beneath You'
Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Allyson - Jul 16, 2008 8:53:38 am PDT #8093 of 10003
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
beth b - Jul 16, 2008 9:03:30 am PDT #8094 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
My condolences,Drew
and extra strength to your mom.
and hooray for shrift
and yay for Trudy too
and PZ often goes out of his way to be obnoxious which I don't get. However,then the reactions are often so stupid and unthinking that I almost under the reason to be so obnoxious. Seriously, don't give people a big red button to push.
Jesse - Jul 16, 2008 9:09:01 am PDT #8095 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Go, shrift!
ChiKat - Jul 16, 2008 9:10:03 am PDT #8096 of 10003
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Yay, Trudy!!
Yay, shrift!!!
Vortex - Jul 16, 2008 9:12:39 am PDT #8097 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I wanted to not hate on the church for this, while I think they shouldn't have gotten so upset, I can see why they had a problem with it. And then, they called it a "hate crime". And I was done with them.
Jessica - Jul 16, 2008 9:21:25 am PDT #8098 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Oh, Bill Donahue is so VERY much not "The Church." He's living proof that any whackjob with an internet connection and a theasuarus can fake credibility if he comes up with an official sounding name for his tiny club of whackjobs.
"The Catholic League" has about as much official standing with the Vatican as I do. Maybe less.
[eta: And he pretty much calls any blog post with a whiff of an anti-Catholic stance a hate crime. I have yet to hear him apply this label to an actual crime.]
meara - Jul 16, 2008 9:22:36 am PDT #8099 of 10003
Sweet Jesus, how is it only 11:15???
I mean, I got up ungodly early to be on a conference call at 7AM, which lasted for over two loooooooooong hours. And my boss just called, but I talked to him and made everything sound pretty good, I think. (He was all "We haven't talked in like, two and a half weeks!" but he was on vacation for a week of that) And then I looked at the clock, and totally expected it to be afternoon. And it wasn't. GAH.
Doesn't someone want to magically do some grocery shopping and entertain me, oh, and do some work for me? Without making me get dressed and leave the house?
shrift - Jul 16, 2008 9:34:34 am PDT #8100 of 10003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
I'm really excited by the Google interview, but also terribly nervous.
Somehow I doubt it will work if I drop to my knees and beg of them, "Pleeeeeease hire me. I worship at the altar of Google. And I don't want to take the job offer in sales which doesn't pay very well. Please?"
Miracleman - Jul 16, 2008 9:38:10 am PDT #8101 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Somehow I doubt it will work if I drop to my knees and beg of them, "Pleeeeeease hire me. I worship at the altar of Google. And I don't want to take the job offer in sales which doesn't pay very well. Please?"
Only use that as a second-to-last resort.
Last resort is waving the gun around.
Fred Pete - Jul 16, 2008 9:44:41 am PDT #8102 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.
I'm equally at cross-currents. The Catholic Church (by which I refer to the Powers That Be and not any individual lay Catholic) has done a fair amount to answer for -- the pedophile priest scandal comes to mind, on several levels -- that I can't give the Church much room for moral high ground.
On the other hand, as others have pointed out, stealing communion wafers from a Catholic church for the purpose of desecration is so far over the line as to obliterate it. That's not a protest of objectionable policies or practices. That's just spitting in the Church's face. And if anything is going to make me sympathetic toward the Catholic Church, it's that sort of thing. (And based on the definitions as I understand them, it's at least arguably a hate crime.)
But death threats against -- not the thief, but someone who expresses support for the thief? Conversely, if anything is going to make me sympathetic toward the thief, it's an organized campaign of death threats.
I note that Bill Donahoe has A Reputation as a Professional Victim, Catholic subdivision. Whose campaigns are not necessarily supported by the Catholic Church.
(ETA: Just saw Jessica's comment on hate crimes and wanted to clarify what I said. The theft of the wafers was arguably a hate crime. Expressing support for the thief isn't a crime of any kind, as far as I know.)