Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Jul 03, 2008 4:35:18 pm PDT #6395 of 10003
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I had this cringey moment at work while people were discussing marraige. One of the guys mentioned he'd have to of course ask his girlfriend's father for permission to marry her.

I asked if he would receive three goats and a chicken for taking the daughter off the old man's hands.

This resulted in a pile-on about how I was being insensitive to tradition.

Because I'm from the internet, I'm immune to the pile-on, so I held my ground and said, "yo, it is a tradition based on women as chattel. And if she gets to ask your daddy if it's okay to marry you, then at least it will be evenly creepy."

I keep waiting for fandom wank to come to make workplace and lulz at me, live and in person.


javachik - Jul 03, 2008 4:40:01 pm PDT #6396 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

I've come to the conclusion that people are happy to take part in the cheerful aspects of traditions despite the fact that said traditions were borne of craptitude and misogyny. I think I've ruined many a bride's moods with my pragmatic observations about the creepy base of many wedding rituals. So now like you, I just offer it when no one is actually getting married, so s/he can't take it so personally.

People need to be made aware, right?


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2008 4:50:22 pm PDT #6397 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Where are all the black folks? And the indication that it's the 21st century?

One of the guys mentioned he'd have to of course ask his girlfriend's father for permission to marry her.

American a few generations back? I mean, I can slightly dig it if he was from a culture that doesn't like to pat itself on the back for perceived equality, but...seriously. It's not touching and romantic.


javachik - Jul 03, 2008 4:52:20 pm PDT #6398 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

A guy has to ask my dog if it's okay to date me. That's my only ritual.

Chile Pepper is very choosy!


tommyrot - Jul 03, 2008 4:52:56 pm PDT #6399 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

This is so wrong, right? [link] Then why so I want to drive it? (Just once.)


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2008 4:55:11 pm PDT #6400 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nerd alert!!!


Glamcookie - Jul 03, 2008 5:06:46 pm PDT #6401 of 10003
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I'm so sorry Sue. Hugs to you.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2008 5:14:43 pm PDT #6402 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

One stop shop for sign generators.


Jesse - Jul 03, 2008 5:15:59 pm PDT #6403 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, I had a gratifying experience with Work Nemesis today. I get this email saying, "Where is X Event happening? It's urgent." Now, I know for a fact that I have told her where, and I got the information off an email that was originally sent to her. So, she sends this email to me and two of her own coworkers, so I wait to see what the coworkers do. One writes back saying, the information that Third Coworker gave us is Y. With a return receipt, which cracked me up -- next time Work Nemesis asks the same question, now she has evidence that she has the answer already.

It is kind of sad how small-minded I am sometimes.


brenda m - Jul 03, 2008 5:18:12 pm PDT #6404 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh, in that kind of situation I always reforward the email I sent them originally. I am very much not above that.