Big stop just to renew your license to companion. Can I use companion as a verb?

Wash ,'Ariel'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jul 03, 2008 11:47:08 am PDT #6345 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Like, if we sold 1000 shares next Tuesday, I'd have cash in our accounts to pay off our debts by Friday. Turns out it can be up to two weeks. Who knew? Not me, that's for sure. And I still don't understand why it takes so long.

That sounds like bank bullshit -- like how they don't clear deposited checks for weeks now if they don't feel like it. It should be fast.

This may be more basic and less nuts and bolts than you're looking for, but a lot of banks have general education type sites: [link]

But really, it sounds like these are things you should make your broker answer.


Jesse - Jul 03, 2008 11:50:42 am PDT #6346 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There are also books like this one [link] that may or may not be what you're looking for, but browsing that section of a bookstore or library might be a good place to start as well.


Typo Boy - Jul 03, 2008 11:54:30 am PDT #6347 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But don't let him divert you into a discussion of philosphy. Ask him to send you a written (Or emailed) statement as to when you can get your money and why it is taking so long. And if you have anything left over for investment after dept paying, deferred purchases and such you may want to consider a different broker who does not evade questions.


juliana - Jul 03, 2008 11:56:55 am PDT #6348 of 10003
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Brenda, I'm sorry about the puppy woes. Fast-healing~ma to her.


Susan W. - Jul 03, 2008 12:01:00 pm PDT #6349 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, I don't think he realized he was evading questions. He just interpreted my "How does all this work?" question differently than I meant it, and I was too embarrassed to ask because it made me feel stupid.

Really, I guess I should rehearse a speech along the lines of, "I didn't grow up doing this, because my family just didn't have that kind of money, and in my adult life up to now I haven't had the resources to invest outside of employer plans. So I need the nuts-and-bolts--how to sell, how long various transactions take to clear, how to access account information online, etc."

ETA thanks for the links, Jesse! That gives me a good place to start.


Anne W. - Jul 03, 2008 12:07:14 pm PDT #6350 of 10003
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Susan, the turnaround time on the stock doesn't sound quite right to me. It should only take a few days, not up to two weeks, unless the bank has some screwy policy.

I tried to ask our broker, but he immediately went into questions about my investment philosophy and so on. Which is fine, and I can even talk about it with reasonable intelligence, because that's half money management, half macroeconomics--topics I understand. But I feel like someone who's just started a new job, and my boss is talking about the philosophy of the organization while I just want to know where to find the bathrooms and the cafeteria and how to get my email account set up.

This does not surprise me. The SEC has been leaning on the idea that brokers need to exercise shitloads of due diligence when it comes to making sure that their clients understand the investments they are making and why. He's probably made some note in his file that he discussed investment philosophy with you so his ass is covered in case you should ever come back with a complaint about him steering you in the wrong direction or some such.


sarameg - Jul 03, 2008 12:13:19 pm PDT #6351 of 10003

Oh great. Guess where my dad is headed in three weeks? [link]


Susan W. - Jul 03, 2008 12:14:18 pm PDT #6352 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan, the turnaround time on the stock doesn't sound quite right to me. It should only take a few days, not up to two weeks, unless the bank has some screwy policy.

Well, he said a few days to a week was more typical, just that it could sometimes take longer to close or settle or something like that.


Tamara - Jul 03, 2008 12:24:54 pm PDT #6353 of 10003
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Susan, my brother is a financial planner (there in Seattle BTW) and I have an MBA in Finance. I still feel like an idiot sometimes with nuts and bolts questions like you are mentioning. So what I do instead of talking to my brother is to call his assistant. She is ridiculously helpful with those types of issues and doesn't think I'm an idiot when asking for step by step directions on how to roll over an IRA from a previous employer.

Maybe you are just talking to the wrong person when you should be talking to his assistant. They know everything.


Typo Boy - Jul 03, 2008 12:54:10 pm PDT #6354 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Legalistas. I was considering buying SmartDraw when I ran into this showstopper in their license. "SmartDraw.com reserves the right to inspect your facilities, servers and computers to ensure that you are in full compliance with this License. You agree that SmartDraw.com has the right to access and inspect your facilities, servers and computers for the foregoing purpose, including by using remote software monitoring tools without further notice to you."

The only way I can read this is that they have the right to install spyware on your machine, in which case the answer is not just "no", but "hell no, you cocksuckers".