Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DebetEsse - Jul 01, 2008 9:24:40 am PDT #5915 of 10003
Woe to the fucking wicked.

It's like White Guy clapping: clap the words!


Strega - Jul 01, 2008 9:25:49 am PDT #5916 of 10003

I still hear echoes of the first episode when Howard Hesseman's character, being told that the format is changing and he'll have more freedom, blasts Cincinnati with some rock music and then leans into the microphone and says "bugger" (actually, I think it was "buggahhhhhhhhh")

I'm afraid this'll be a letdown, but it was "booger." His backstory was he'd been fired from a station in LA for saying "booger" on the air.


Kathy A - Jul 01, 2008 9:28:39 am PDT #5917 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Italian Beef.

My favorite way to eat one is cheesy beef (mozzarella), sweet (peppers), and slightly wet (not sopping with dipped juice, just damp, otherwise the bread falls apart too soon).


tommyrot - Jul 01, 2008 9:38:39 am PDT #5918 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I didn't know this:

Italian beef sandwiches are difficult to obtain outside the Chicago area


Kathy A - Jul 01, 2008 9:55:45 am PDT #5919 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Kathy A - Jul 01, 2008 9:55:56 am PDT #5920 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

meara, it looks like you'll soon have a place to get Italian Beef in Chicago! (And hot dogs, Polish, cheese curds, and even Italian Ice.)


Jesse - Jul 01, 2008 9:57:34 am PDT #5921 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I don't know from Italian Beef. If I've even heard of it, it's only been here.


Nutty - Jul 01, 2008 9:58:05 am PDT #5922 of 10003
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I don't know what an Italian beef is. Still want one, though.

Oh, Italian beef is not at all what I was expecting. I was expecting, you know, beef from Italy, which I have had, and which is aces, especially if it is Chiannese, roasted in rosemary.

Or possibly Chicago just doesn't know what to call a hot roast beef sandwich. A cheeseless cheesestake? Anyway, the name "Italian beef" is not getting across the humdrum sandwichy nature of the thing.


DavidS - Jul 01, 2008 9:58:07 am PDT #5923 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Italian beef sandwiches are difficult to obtain outside the Chicago area

There are a couple places you can get them in SF, but I can't vouch for their authenticity. I've never eaten one in Chicago.

Mostly out here in that genre you'll find the more Californian French Dip, a sandwich credited to Los Angeles.


Kathy A - Jul 01, 2008 10:02:53 am PDT #5924 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Italian Beefs are more than just roast beef sandwiches. It's all about the spices in the jus--everyone makes their own spice mix, so beefs are different at just about every beef joint. Add the peppers or gardineira and vary the amount of dip, and you've got some good eatin' there!