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Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Jun 26, 2008 3:30:37 am PDT #4928 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

In Custer Died for Your Sins, Vine Deloria writes:

Whites claiming Indian blood generally tend to reinforce mythical beliefs about Indians. All but one person I met who claimed Indian blood claimed it on their grandmother's side. I once did a projection backward and discovered that evidently most tribes were entirely female for the first three hundred years of white occupation. No one, it seemed, wanted to claim a male Indian as a forebear."

It doesn't take much insight into racial attitudes to understand the real meaning of the Indian grandmother complex that plagues certain whites. A male ancestor has too much of the aura of the savage warrior, the unknown primitive, the instinctive animal, to make him a respectable member of the family tree. But a young Indian princess? Ah, there was royalty for the taking. Somehow the white was linked with a noble house of gentility and culture if his grandmother was an Indian princess who ran away with an intrepid pioneer. And royalty has always been an unconscious but all-consuming goal of the European immigrant."

The early colonists, accustomed to life under benevolent despots, projected their understanding of the European political structure onto the Indian tribe in trying to explain its political and social structure. European royal houses were closed to ex-convicts and indentured servants, so the colonists made all Indian maidens princesses, then proceeded to climb a social ladder of their own creation. Within the next generation, if the trend continues, a large portion of the American population will eventually be related to Powhattan.

Also, I love the internet, which kept me from having to go find my copy of Custer Died for Your Sins and then type something.


Jessica - Jun 26, 2008 4:07:31 am PDT #4929 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

We are taking Noah kayaking tomorrow. This will either be entirely too much stress, great fun, or completely dangerous (or perhaps all three!)

Oh! Let me know how it goes, because I am craving a kayak trip myself.


Shir - Jun 26, 2008 4:10:40 am PDT #4930 of 10003
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Tired. Iced coffee came too late.

Need that ride for the show tonight. Really need it. Because I really, really, really wanna show off my new dress.


msbelle - Jun 26, 2008 4:16:26 am PDT #4931 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

OMG so tired. I MUST go to bed early tonight. Also forgot make-up this morning.


Shir - Jun 26, 2008 4:38:48 am PDT #4932 of 10003
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Mmmmm. Only gonna get the ride back home, not there. I guess I'll take the dress with me and change there - getting looks on buses on my way there is the last thing my mood needs now.

So I guess it's a 60%-win. And yes, the dress is that worthy.


Lee - Jun 26, 2008 4:39:28 am PDT #4933 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

-ma for you and Pico, Sue.


Sparky1 - Jun 26, 2008 4:42:21 am PDT #4934 of 10003
Librarian Warlord

Pico ~ma!

OMG so tired.

This. A friend came into town last night with her kids and they are still in Western Time Zone way so we were up late.


Sue - Jun 26, 2008 4:42:22 am PDT #4935 of 10003
hip deep in pie

Thanks Perkins. ETA: And Sparky. The vet just called actually, and there was no pus, so now he's going to do xrays and see if there's a tumour. I am voting, "It's not a toomah."


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 26, 2008 4:43:13 am PDT #4936 of 10003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Whites claiming Indian blood generally tend to reinforce mythical beliefs about Indians. All but one person I met who claimed Indian blood claimed it on their grandmother's side. I once did a projection backward and discovered that evidently most tribes were entirely female for the first three hundred years of white occupation. No one, it seemed, wanted to claim a male Indian as a forebear."

That cracks me up because my mom's best friend in school actually had a grandmother who lived on a reservation. Of course, since the one quote I recall from her was "I always regretted not becoming a whore," I'm guessing not so much an Indian princess.


Jesse - Jun 26, 2008 4:44:18 am PDT #4937 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Good luck, Pico.

Oh dear -- I have heard a family story that some ancestor was the first white man to marry an Indian woman, too. (Although no one thinks that makes us Native American, 15 generations later....) The Indian ancestry thing was an interesting part of the African American Lives show, too -- I don't think anyone who thought they had Indian heritage actually did, once they did the geneology and DNA testing.