Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 24, 2008 5:33:17 pm PDT #4739 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There's got to be something someone could do about Apple as a cargo cult, isn't there? I mean, in that case it's true that if you go to the temple at the appointed time, the great god does give you new stuff, but still.


lisah - Jun 24, 2008 5:34:35 pm PDT #4740 of 10003
Punishingly Intricate

I bought a fucking teething ring, because cold= no pain.

oh poor you! Hey, if you want to send your folks down to tour Fells Point on Thursday I'll have lunch with them!

My old dog Frank isn't doing so well right now. He's got some diarrhea and had been doing okay but now he's not eating and he threw up some water he'd had. He went to the vet today but they didn't have a quick diagnosis. they've done some bloodwork that will come back tomorrow. I just feel so bad for him.


msbelle - Jun 24, 2008 5:45:38 pm PDT #4741 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

poor sara's mouth and lisa's dog.

ION, I finally got around to cancelling my friendster account.


§ ita § - Jun 24, 2008 5:46:55 pm PDT #4742 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yes! I gotta yank friendster too.


Pix - Jun 24, 2008 5:54:16 pm PDT #4743 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

Lisah, your poor puppy!

Speaking of cargo cults, you should all read Island of the Sequined Love Nun if you like absurdist humor. So funny. Plus, talking fruit bat.


Strega - Jun 24, 2008 5:55:16 pm PDT #4744 of 10003

I hear that he's quite shy in person, and loathe to start arguments

He actually sounds like a guy I was friends with in HS. Who was a hypocritical jerk with poor social skills (and this is me saying that, and shut up). I was good friends with him for a long time because he was also very smart and generous... as long as you didn't push the buttons that made him a hypocritical jerk. But any disagreement about abstract issues was taken as a personal attack. And then dancing around those buttons got to be too much... but yeah, I can easily see that happening.

I find it remarkable that people would care so much about poetry that other people are writing

Er, have you met this thing we call "fandom"? That's the whole thing with schisms. The more subtle the distinction in beliefs, the more violently people will defend them, and the more they'll hate people on the other side. To get philosophical [cha-ching!] the eternal question is whether people are more determined to form tribes, or to divide them.


§ ita § - Jun 24, 2008 6:03:56 pm PDT #4745 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

have you met this thing we call "fandom"?

Call me when careers are made and broken over it, though. That's a whole other level of caring and ability to support those opinions.

Sara, OUCH.


Ginger - Jun 24, 2008 6:12:06 pm PDT #4746 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

He said if he's wearing the spacesuit, the ship will come pick him up.

I say this is solid logic. Thoughts?

It is the plot of Have Spacesuit, Will Travel.

I suspect that the internet has only made academic infighting worse.

Yay for jobs! The only problem is you're all moving in the wrong direction. Go east!

Poor dog. Poor Sarameg. Have you tried oil of cloves, Sara?


Amy - Jun 24, 2008 6:24:40 pm PDT #4747 of 10003
Because books.

Poetry seems to be one of those things that may make you famous (probably after you're dead) but will never make you rich, especially now. Even in the '50s and '60s when a lot of important poetry was being written (and, not for nothing, read), Sylvia Plath and Ted Hughes were still freelancing radio programs and writing book reviews to make money. Plath kept trying to break in women's magazines with short stories.


Kat - Jun 24, 2008 6:34:20 pm PDT #4748 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And then we marveled at a time when poetry mattered enough to people to draw those kind of battle lines.

There are still battles within academia about poetry, though it's the sort of the narrative poets and the new formalists vs. the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poets. The problem is that the battle is primarily an academic one.