Early: You folks are all insane. Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Jun 16, 2008 12:19:38 pm PDT #3452 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I remember you mentioning the pig - just not the tutu! It seems like the sort of detail I'd remember, but who knows where my brain is these days.


sarameg - Jun 16, 2008 12:20:01 pm PDT #3453 of 10003

It is scary that your neighbor is not alone. [link] [link]


Kat - Jun 16, 2008 12:20:06 pm PDT #3454 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Also, Ginger, I meant to add: Norwegian skews older passengers.


Sheryl - Jun 16, 2008 12:26:26 pm PDT #3455 of 10003
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday askye!


Kat - Jun 16, 2008 12:28:38 pm PDT #3456 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

ita, a vinyl (playboy) bunny suit! She's actually selling off a bunch of stuff. It wouldn't fit me but might fit you. Including this amazing jacket.


DavidS - Jun 16, 2008 12:29:04 pm PDT #3457 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

U. S. Open (Golf): Wow! Tiger won in sudden death on the 19th hole. That's epic.


Pix - Jun 16, 2008 12:31:00 pm PDT #3458 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

Yep, what everyone else said. my mom and I took my then 90-year-old grandmother on a Royal Carribean Alaskan cruise, and it was amazing. We had reserved a wheelchair onboard and got a (huge, for a cruise ship) handicapped-accessible room with its own balcony that slept (albeit tightly) all three of us, and it was money well spent. Gram sat out on her own little balcony a lot since it was so convenient and private.

Of course, I had to invest in earplugs since both my mother and my grandmother snore like mad, but it was worth the savings to split the cruise room three ways. I'm also somewhat claustrophobic, so having a big wall of glass made that much more manageable.

If you can't take sleeping in the same room and don't mind the lack of natural light, a cheap inside stateroom is the way to go. You'll spend most of your time on deck or elsewhere on the ship anyway.

I recommend using a travel agent for all of this, btw. They will make sure you get the best rooms possible and will help you to be sure your mother is all set.

ETA: Shore excursions are often ridiculously expensive, but they do usually indicate the activity level, and most are able to easily accommodate the elderly. Once or twice my mom and I went on a more active excursion while my gram either stayed on board to relax or went on another excursion she could access. She needs supervision to not get lost, and the cruise and tour people were great. I think I was the youngest person on the Alaskan cruise by at least 20 years when I went. The age of the passengers directly correlates to the route. Colder routes like NE, Canada, and Alaska are always going to skew a lot older.

E(again)TA: Also, I am Kat. I liked cruising a lot more than I expected to, though it's not my favorite mode of travel. I've been on several and only had one bad experience--and I think that had a lot more to do with personal issues than the cruise itself.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2008 12:37:34 pm PDT #3459 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Damn, Kat, that's hot.


Toddson - Jun 16, 2008 12:40:27 pm PDT #3460 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Re cruises - from all I've heard there's one constant - they feed you. Constantly. Which can be a good news/bad news thing.


Pix - Jun 16, 2008 12:43:17 pm PDT #3461 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

they feed you. Constantly. Which can be a good news/bad news thin
This is very true.

They also constantly provide opportunities to drink, which--when traveling with one's family--can be a blessing.