Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Jun 16, 2008 11:44:13 am PDT #3432 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Hivemind question:

My mother wants to go on a trip. Neither she nor my sister is very steady on her feet and Mother, who has congestive heart failure, gets winded very quickly. She likes history and scenery and her favorite place is Williamsburg. Neither of them like "weird food," which encompasses most of my favorite foods. She has suggested a New England and Canada cruise in the fall, in part to see leaves. Most of those start in New York or Boston and visit Boston, Maine and the Maritimes and are in ports all but one day. None of us have been on a cruise before.

My questions are:

How do you pick a cruise?

Is this the sort of thing a relatively feeble person can do?

If I'm in a small room with my mother and sister, will we all be alive after seven days or will the headlines read "Bloodbath on the High Seas?"

Is there internet access?

Do you have any alternative suggestions? (We have kicked around the idea of Charleston.)


Toddson - Jun 16, 2008 11:48:14 am PDT #3433 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Ginger no advice re the cruise.

(However, I'd like to point out that, in case of extreme distress, pushing someone who's already unsteady on their feet overboard is easy and leaves little, if any, mess.)


Vortex - Jun 16, 2008 11:51:29 am PDT #3434 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Ginger, you have mail.

On the cruise note (and having met your mother and sister), may I suggest two rooms. A lot of cruises deal with older people, so you shouldn't have too much trouble. They even have cruises where you can do dialysis on board. I don't have any advice on cruising, since the idea of being trapped on a boat makes my skin crawl, and irritates me because it's so expensive.


Kat - Jun 16, 2008 11:52:22 am PDT #3435 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

That pig IS made of awesome. And thankfully their sausages won't be made of that pig.

It's so tiny.... and it reminds me, we saw a second pet pig in our neighborhood. The first is about 200 lbs. and wearing a tutu. But this one was smaller and being walked on a leash.

This is the from the transcript of the speech, whcih is different than the article quotes:

You know, sometimes I’ll go to an eighth-grade graduation and there’s all that pomp and circumstance and gowns and flowers. And I think to myself, it’s just eighth grade. To really compete, they need to graduate high school, and then they need to graduate college, and they probably need a graduate degree too. An eighth-grade education doesn’t cut it today. Let’s give them a handshake and tell them to get their butts back in the library!

I love the last sentence. CRACKS ME UP.


Steph L. - Jun 16, 2008 11:52:36 am PDT #3436 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

How do you pick a cruise?

Travel agent?

If I'm in a small room with my mother and sister, will we all be alive after seven days or will the headlines read "Bloodbath on the High Seas?"

I feel your pain. I'm about to spend a week at the beach in a 6-bedroom house with The Boy and -- count 'em -- *13* of his family members, 7 of whom are neices and nephews.

I'm wondering if I stay drunk the whole week, will it be obvious?


Ginger - Jun 16, 2008 11:52:40 am PDT #3437 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Todd has a good point.


flea - Jun 16, 2008 11:52:59 am PDT #3438 of 10003
information libertarian

My mother went on a Maritimes cruise like that a few years ago. She isn't feeble, but I can ask her about the rest. All I recall right now is that there were slot machines on the boat.


msbelle - Jun 16, 2008 11:53:10 am PDT #3439 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

There are a lot of cruise websites, maybe start there. From what I've seen on 2 cruises, they are very accessible for people with little mobility and they allow one to be as active or not active as one wishes.

On one cruise I shared a small interior room and we were rarely in there. On my cruise alone (work cruise) I was in a larger room with a balcony and I spend much more time there. If your family is one to require everyone spend all the time together, I think a shared room might make you crazy.

There was access on both cruises, but it was occassionally spotty. You should be fine if you are in a port everyday.

When they were mobile and very active, my grandparents were on cruises and land tours with this company: [link] something like that may work for you all.


amych - Jun 16, 2008 11:53:40 am PDT #3440 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Somehow, I missed the tutu.


flea - Jun 16, 2008 11:54:34 am PDT #3441 of 10003
information libertarian

(work cruise)

The words make sense individually, but together...