Joining Nilly and Dana in the hate-raw-tomatoes corner.

And me.

But, I like gazpacho and salsa.

Me too! I think the spiciness cuts through whatever's yucky about the tomatoes.

I have been very restrained. I have only pointed out a couple of times that raw tomatoes are Satan's food, and this just proves it.

I think the spiciness cuts through whatever's yucky about the tomatoes.

Also, the lack of disgusting slimy gelatinous goo spiked with nasty bitter seed-bombs.

Ok. Thoughts about Obama's Father's Day Speech?

Addressing a packed congregation at one of the city’s largest black churches, Senator Barack Obama on Sunday invoked his own absent father to deliver a sharp message to African-American men, saying, “We need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end at conception.”

“Too many fathers are M.I.A, too many fathers are AWOL, missing from too many lives and too many homes,” Mr. Obama said, to a chorus of approving murmurs from the audience. “They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.”

The speech was striking for its setting, and in how Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, directly addressed one of the most sensitive topics in the African-American community: whether absent fathers bore responsibility for some of the intractable problems afflicting black Americans. Mr. Obama noted that “more than half of all black children live in single-parent households,” a number that he said had doubled since his own childhood.

Accompanied by his wife, Michelle, and his daughters, Malia and Sasha, who sat in the front pew, Mr. Obama laid out his case in stark terms that would be difficult for a white candidate to make, telling the mostly black audience not to “just sit in the house watching SportsCenter,” and to stop praising themselves for mediocre accomplishments.

“Don’t get carried away with that eighth-grade graduation,” he said, bringing many members of the congregation to their feet, applauding. “You’re supposed to graduate from eighth grade.”

I say that about 8th grade graduation all the time! It's such a giant deal here and people celebrate it all out. But really, it's sad because it's the only graduation for a large percentage of them.

I really liked the speech and think he is saying things which need to be said.

Also, the lack of disgusting slimy gelatinous goo spiked with nasty bitter seed-bombs.

Dude, you are just getting bad tomatoes.

Good tomatoes are meaty with minimal jelly and seeds.

Whatcha need are dry farmed tomatoes that are packed with sweet, delicious tomatey goodness.

When I am an Evil Emperor I am going to deny salsa and spaghetti sauce to anybody who disses the raw tomato. If you can't love the source, then you can't have the by-product. Thus begins my reign of evil.

I really liked the speech and think he is saying things which need to be said.

I haven't read the whole text, but from the article, it sounds both upfront and honest and controversial.

If you can't love the source, then you can't have the by-product.

and so if we love books, we must love publishers also?

::backs away from prospective EE::

If you can't love the source, then you can't have the by-product. Thus begins my reign of evil.

Anyone else interested in starting a mutiny?

I mean, by that logic, I wouldn't be allowed to have olive oil either.

::hip bumps Dana. not for the first time::

Poor David. Evil Emperor plagued by nay-sayers and account executives from the very outset. Too much freedom, we have.