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Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 09, 2008 9:39:36 am PDT #2020 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

What? you never heard of wimmin? or grrrl for that matter?

But it's not Society (aka The Man) wanting us to use those words!


hippocampus - Jun 09, 2008 9:42:42 am PDT #2021 of 10003
not your mom's socks.

Yes, I am furious that your inability to finish your dissertation before the end of the spring semester is now jeopardizing our ability to get a mortgage.

Flea - from the other side (six years chem phd, with a 3-year post-doc)... it will work out. they will likely hold the job for him. everyone knows that dissertations suck. Even if you and I are bald from pulling our hair out on the other side, and our feet can kick no more ass. It will end. I say this to you now and I will keep saying it for as long as it takes because someone did that for me.

... just don't ask how long it took to publish his thesis after he graduated.


Steph L. - Jun 09, 2008 9:55:39 am PDT #2022 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh god, flea. I feel you. You can't force them to do the only goddamned thing they need to get done, and yet when they don't do it, it affects SO MUCH MORE than just them.

Um, a dissertation is not just a small or simple thing to get done.

I didn't say that it is, or that I think it is, and I apologize if I even implied it.

When I said "the only goddamned thing they need to get done," by "thing," I didn't mean *only* PhD dissertations, nor when I said "they" was I even speaking solely about people whose PhD dissertation is taking longer to complete than anticipated.

I was trying (very poorly, it seems) to be sympathetic by using the only comparator I have available, by speaking in a general sense of loving someone who is slower than anticipated at accomplishing any given task, be it folding laundry or completing a PhD dissertation, and how that slowness -- of whatever task it might be -- can fuck with the lives of those around them.

There is a reason it takes most people years.

I understand this, and, although I wasn't pooh-poohing the amount of work and time necessary to complete and defend a PhD dissertation, I apologize if it seemed like I was.


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2008 10:03:33 am PDT #2023 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Flea, that sounds confoundingly frustrating. Here's to hoping that you encounter as many understanding people along the way as possible to make things go simply. Hell, to make them go, period.

Doctor's appt ate most of the morning. Upshot is I had flared into quite the migraine by the time I got to see him, and I got to try new meds then and there. Not sure to how much success, though. He finally prescribed me new rescue meds but they a) aren't covered by my insurance and b) don't come in the dosage he specified.

This better not put me in the ER tonight.


megan walker - Jun 09, 2008 10:05:24 am PDT #2024 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Sorry if I seemed to overreact Steph, this is just a very sensitive issue for me.

I seriously considering abandoning my program and I can't tell the number of times I heard "But you only have the dissertation left!" It was an agonizing couple of years when I was really trying to finish up and just couldn't. There's a reason I sent out birth announcements after my defense. Cause it felt like the longest labor ever.

That's not to say that I wouldn't be completely pissed off if I were in flea's shoes, but it sounds like it might work out, so that's good.

And, Steph, thank you for being so quick to apologize. I really appreciate it.


DavidS - Jun 09, 2008 10:09:19 am PDT #2025 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ahhh, Mr. Flea. I am sympathetic, truly. If there's anything I learned on the book it's that Finishing Is Hard. Really, really hard. But you are definitely pushing the outer limits of patience here. You must screw your diligence to the sticking point and push past that tightening in your chest, and the itching in your brain and get 'er done. It's grinding time. Grind it coarse and grind it fine and pile it high and deep.


Steph L. - Jun 09, 2008 10:10:05 am PDT #2026 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Sorry if I seemed to overreact Steph, this is just a very sensitive issue for me.

That's okay; I was just trying to be sympathetic re: People We Love And The Ways That They Can Be Slow And Therefore Drive Us Batshit. I don't know much about PhD dissertations, but I *do* know that if they were quick and easy to complete/defend, every yokel would do it.

And, Steph, thank you for being so quick to apologize. I really appreciate it.

You're most welcome.


Burrell - Jun 09, 2008 10:10:30 am PDT #2027 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oh dear ita. I hope you can avoid the ER, but let me know if there's anything I can do to help.


Cashmere - Jun 09, 2008 10:10:51 am PDT #2028 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Ack, flea. Sorry you have to deal with the stress. The good news is that banks are willing to work with people.

What? you never heard of wimmin? or grrrl for that matter?

I prefer "Gyno American."

I really need to take the kids to see Kung Fu Panda. Owen got a Happy Meal yesterday and he's now asking me to show him the Kung Fu moves on the box. I move with the subtle grace of Jack Black, let me tell you.


Jessica - Jun 09, 2008 10:14:34 am PDT #2029 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

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