Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Spike's Bitches 41: Thrown together to stand against the forces of darkness  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Susan W. - Jul 29, 2008 12:53:44 pm PDT #9175 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I wish I'd had a teacher like you and a class like that when I was in high school, Kristin.


Vortex - Jul 29, 2008 12:57:03 pm PDT #9176 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

What blew my mind was seeing Fishburne in Apocalypse Now and realizing it was him.

or, you know, Pee Wee's Playhouse.


Pix - Jul 29, 2008 12:57:12 pm PDT #9177 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Aw, thanks Susan. I'm proud of the curriculum even though it doesn't always make a lot of sense until you're in the middle of it. I swear it all goes together, though! We talk about the nature of religion and belief and civilization and power and gender politics and good/evil and it all somehow comes together in these books.


smonster - Jul 29, 2008 12:59:34 pm PDT #9178 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I love Luhrmann's R&J, especially once past the first 20 min.


Typo Boy - Jul 29, 2008 1:05:01 pm PDT #9179 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Quine and Brecht. Brecht always claimed intentions far from what the audience got from his plays. You were supposed to have no sympathy for Mother Courage, Galileo was a coward and so on. This really fits Quine's theories about communication, whether Brecht was being truthful about his intent or not.


Strix - Jul 29, 2008 1:06:55 pm PDT #9180 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I really, really wanted to teach The Penelopeiad when I was teaching The Odyssey this year, but just not enough time. I just like the difference in perspectives.

Did you know that Ursula LeGuin's latest book, I think it's called Lavinia, is from the perspective of Aeneas' wife: not Dido (dead Dido, duH) but of the woman her married to found the Roman empire. I haven't read it yet, but I am always drawn to retellings of famous stories from the woman's perspective, even if the perspective is one I don't agree with in all particulars. (Mists of Avalon, I'm looking at you! Although I did love The Firebrand, which is Zimmer Bradley's version of Cassandra's story.)


Connie Neil - Jul 29, 2008 1:15:06 pm PDT #9181 of 10001
brillig

The Lady's Not For Burning, there's a good play. I have to confess, I've never heard of Carly Churchill.

I do miss formal classes. All the night classes around here are for "useful" things taht will make you more "marketable", because as everyone knows, if it can't go on your resume it's worthless.


DavidS - Jul 29, 2008 1:44:41 pm PDT #9182 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but I am always drawn to retellings of famous stories from the woman's perspective, even if the perspective is one I don't agree with in all particulars.

I think The Wide Sargasso Sea was one of the earliest examples of this.

What Vortex Said, re Lawrence Fishburne. Cowboy Curtis, dammit!

I get ND's point about the overteaching of Shakespeare, but only if you're looking at Shakespeare as a dramatist. As opposed to Shakespeare as literary and linguistic foundation. There's no other playwright (or writer of any kind, actually) even close to being as influential as Shakespeare in the latter regard.

You can teach a pretty good literary course just hitting the books which stole their titles from Shakespeare: Pale Fire, Sound and the Fury, Remembrance of Things Past (bit of a cheat as megan and amych will tell you...).

Seems like you could use a lot of Slings and Arrows scenes to teach Shakespeare too. Particularly Geoffrey's take on Ophelia and the outtake "Speak the speech" scene for Hamlet.


Vortex - Jul 29, 2008 1:52:03 pm PDT #9183 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I was reading one of my other threads, and one of the people was upset because she and her family are going to a fancy resort in Mexico, and the restaurant does not allow sandals or sneakers. She was upset because she had to buy shoes for her sons (the dress code applies to children as well). I wanted to ask - why are the only shoes they own sneakers or sandals? do they never have to dress up? Or am I crazy?


Pix - Jul 29, 2008 1:52:45 pm PDT #9184 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I used a couple of scenes of Slings & Arrows to teach Macbeth. Worked ok, but the freshmen are a little young to appreciate a lot of the humor. I'm looking forward to using season 1 to teach Hamet to my seniors next year.