I can't assume that every industry is like biotechs, that's for sure. We start with 3.5 weeks of PTO, but that includes "sick time"
Heh. And javachik, not every company in biotech is like generous--I interviewed with one that gave 15 days PTO. Total. I was like "...you've got to be fucking kidding me. That's it? Sick AND vacation?" My first company in DC you started with 24 days of PTO. It was sweet. We didn't get tons of vacation days, but damn. My first company out here in Seattle, I think it was something like 20 days, but you also got the week between Christmas and New Year's off?
Not for the first time, but why can't we all have management like Scrappy and javachik?
Tep--do consider going out tonight, only because I know this event gives you great pleasure
Yeah, Tim just came home from a meeting and gave me Stern Face. I compromised and said I'd go up with him now, and reserve the right to leave whenever I wanted to.
Yeah, Tim just came home from a meeting and gave me Stern Face. I compromised and said I'd go up with him now, and reserve the right to leave whenever I wanted to.
Yeah. Because I get the impression that you're rather like me here, and whether or not you
enjoy
being around other people in some situation, it's still placing demands on your emotional reserves (as opposed to the more extraverted types, who get a boost from the interaction). So make sure you have an escape route if you find you just don't have anything left for it.
"I think you have 2 douchebags for bosses, is what."
I'm a pretty big Tim fan right now.
Wrt the benefits thing, even if Hypothetical New Company generally only gives [x]amount of PTO to new hires, it's totally within your rights to say (once you get to the talking numbers part of the process) "I'd like you to match my previous employer's PTO benefits." It's a cheap way for them to make you happy and most places that aren't hamstrung by bureaucratic corporate overlords are at least willing to consider it.
It sounds similar to the kinds of stories I heard during the dot-com crash.
Steph, Scola might be on to something... do you think they are looking for quick fixes financially? I have to tell you that this behavior is something that the very large company I used to work for did when they first started tanking. They cut the driver's hours, cut back office hours in the guise of "performance" (they also are set to lose $1.3 billion this year)
I'm a pretty big Tim fan right now.
Me too! I'm so sorry about the douchnoozle drippings, Steph.
They all SUCK, really truly.
Like they do as much as they can to sidle-up-to but maybe not cross (or sometimes do cross) the lines of legality and take liberties where they can when it suits them.
Yes. How very Christian of them.
Steph, I'm so sorry you have to deal with these assholes. I hope a solution comes along quickly.
It sounds similar to the kinds of stories I heard during the dot-com crash.
And oh yes, THIS. I'm getting horrible flashbacks to when I was laid off from the first real full-time job I ever had because the CEO was told by their accountant that if she didn't let someone go she was going to lose the company. The actions you're describing are NOT those of a financially healthy institution, and are sounding increasingly desperate.
{{{Teppy}}} My God, what a gaggle of asshats. Like everyone said, you deserve much better.
And do companies really still only give one week's vacation to new staff?
Well, I dunno. I haven't job-hunted in 13 years.
I think it depends on where you work. If you were to get a job at my employer, they're kinda boxed in by the fact they're a state agency with lots of rules, and you'd earn 8 hours per month for the first year with gradual increments each year until you're like me (because my pre-Annabel service credit still counts) and get 16 hours per month. But in the private sector, especially with a small organization, I'd think that would be a good issue to negotiate.
OTOH, there's something to be said for large state organizations. Even the worst boss I had wouldn't have pulled that crap, because she didn't have the power to do so without raising all kinds of red flags with HR.
