We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Spike's Bitches 41: Thrown together to stand against the forces of darkness  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


JZ - Jul 03, 2008 3:22:14 pm PDT #5815 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, Teppy. That is such a WORLD of not right. And I'm boggled that they can even legally do that out of the blue, with no preliminary meetings or written-up benchmarks and expectations and, oh, you know, stuff that reasonable grown-up humans do (and I will not be at all surprised if some representative of the HR or legal subset of the hivemind pops up to say, "Ah, no, not legally, not so much").

What a pack of actively evil douchebags and passive spineless shitheels. What a fuck of a thing to do to a decade-plus-long employee heading into a holiday weekend.

And I think I love Tim even more for this than I did when he doodled faces on the eggs in your fridge, and possibly just about as much as when he stood up for you against the douchebag in charge of that ridiculous fetish community newsletter committee. He loves you and he has your back, always. Love him.

Ahhh, fuck fuck fuck. I hate them for all the stupid and petty and irritating things they've done over the past years, and for the shitty thing they did today, making you feel so demoralized and losery and sending you into such a tailspin. High time and more to start looking for something new (but no Craigslist links from me -- you've got a loving partner who's settled in and rooted in the community, a house, and a neighborhood you really feel at home in; I'd love to sling Bay Area listings at you, but it sort of feels like maybe you belong where you are; just in a different goddamn job).


Typo Boy - Jul 03, 2008 3:28:13 pm PDT #5816 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, bosses are beyond douchebags. And you know what, when you get a new job and give your notice, you might have that notice drafted by a lawyer with a reminder about libel and slander laws. That should keep them careful about bad references, because employers are cautious about these things in any case.


P.M. Marc - Jul 03, 2008 3:31:03 pm PDT #5817 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Tep, they're not the bags, they're used Summer's Eve drippings.

MeanSOB appears to be attempting to undermine you. Please look up all employment law that you can. Understand that cutting back to 1-2 weeks of vacation for a couple years (usually, as I recall, people get more time the longer they're with a place) may well be a small price to pay for your sanity. Start sending out feelers for freelance gigs where you can WAH, maybe. I mean, heck, you know enough people on the Interpipes that SOMEONE'S gotta know something.


DawnK - Jul 03, 2008 3:31:13 pm PDT #5818 of 10001
giraffe mode

Steph, because I end up reading the board in great swaths - your office environment always sounds sort of fishy. Like they do as much as they can to sidle-up-to but maybe not cross (or sometimes do cross) the lines of legality and take liberties where they can when it suits them. At the very least, it's damn dysfunctional. Ask for clearly written benchmarks with firm dates for re-evaluation. It's good that the Boss' daughter is in your corner.

As far as negotiating salary/vacation, the one thing you need to remember is that any other company would be GLAD to have you. You're not incompetent, on the contrary you have valuable skills that other companies would be willing to pay for.

Your Boy is a wonderful human - he's a keeper, that one!


javachik - Jul 03, 2008 3:32:24 pm PDT #5819 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

As far as negotiating salary/vacation, the one thing you need to remember is that any other company would be GLAD to have you.

This.

And do companies really still only give one week's vacation to new staff?


Steph L. - Jul 03, 2008 3:33:26 pm PDT #5820 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

That should keep them careful about bad references, because employers are cautious about these things in any case.

I think that if I use Boss's daughter as my contact person for a reference, then my reference will be fine (or, at the least, sanitized).

I truly think that if I used Incompetent!boss or Mean!sort-of boss, they would cheerfully tell a prospective employer that I fuck off all day.


Scrappy - Jul 03, 2008 3:34:05 pm PDT #5821 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

This sounds like they are penalizing YOU for bad management on their part. They suck. Really.


Dana - Jul 03, 2008 3:34:34 pm PDT #5822 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

As far as negotiating salary/vacation, the one thing you need to remember is that any other company would be GLAD to have you. You're not incompetent, on the contrary you have valuable skills that other companies would be willing to pay for.

Double this. You have lots of experience, and as much as job-hunting sucks, I think it would so be worth it for you to get the hell out of there and away from those psychos.


Steph L. - Jul 03, 2008 3:35:48 pm PDT #5823 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And do companies really still only give one week's vacation to new staff?

Well, I dunno. I haven't job-hunted in 13 years.

your office environment always sounds sort of fishy. Like they do as much as they can to sidle-up-to but maybe not cross (or sometimes do cross) the lines of legality and take liberties where they can when it suits them.

Bingo. They used to get audited by the IRS every. single. year. Maybe they still do, for all I know.


billytea - Jul 03, 2008 3:40:20 pm PDT #5824 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Steph, I'm just gobsmacked. I have no idea how people like that sleep at night. Or, for that matter, put their pants on in the morning without accidentally choking themselves.