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Gaming 1: You are likely to be eaten by a grue

A thread for the discussion of games: board, LARP, MMORPG, video, tabletop RPG, game theory etc. etc. and all attendant news, developments and ancillary subjects thereof, as well as coordinating/scheduling games either online or IRL. All are welcome to chime in, talk about their favorite games or learn about gaming of any sort.

PLEASE TO WHITEFONT SPOILERS for video games, RPG modules or anything for which foreknowledge of events might lessen one's enjoyment of whatever gaming experience.


Sean K - Jun 12, 2008 5:18:10 pm PDT #926 of 26132
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

We, umm, flipped through the 4e MM looking at the art credits!

The art is generally being praised. They got some damned good artists to fill the job.

Although to that extent, while I much prefer good art to bad art in gaming books (the old D&D interior art was... varied, to say the least), it's kind of like having Janusz Kaminski as your DP. Of course your movie is going to look fantastic.


amych - Jun 12, 2008 5:44:36 pm PDT #927 of 26132
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

They got some damned good artists to fill the job.

Indeed. Adorable, even.


billytea - Jun 12, 2008 6:47:32 pm PDT #928 of 26132
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The art is generally being praised. They got some damned good artists to fill the job.

I do like the artwork. But for the minor quibble that the dragonborn come out looking rather goofy (and, for that matter, with a snout that does kind of resemble Goofy's), at least from the artist who does them most often in the PHB.


billytea - Jun 12, 2008 7:02:42 pm PDT #929 of 26132
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Jon Kovalic (of Dork Tower) provides some short thoughts on D&D 4E, and one seriously awesome piece of constructive criticism for the Monster Manual: [link]


Pete, Husband of Jilli - Jun 12, 2008 7:10:08 pm PDT #930 of 26132
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd

Indeed. Adorable, even.

See, now you're spoiling the mood.

The art is generally being praised.

Links? Hey, c'mon I'm always interested in comments about the art in products I worked on, even if the comments aren't directed at my stuff. Though, that helps...


Pix - Jun 12, 2008 7:16:46 pm PDT #931 of 26132
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Art Critique, by Kristin

The art in 4E is really good. Especially the stuff by the Brit. You know the one. He lives in Seattle and spends a lot time wrangling a perky goth. Anyway, you should buy the book just to see his art. It's shiny. And adorable. Just like him.

The End


Pete, Husband of Jilli - Jun 12, 2008 7:35:25 pm PDT #932 of 26132
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd

Helper. As ever.


Atropa - Jun 12, 2008 7:44:05 pm PDT #933 of 26132
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Anyway, you should buy the book just to see his art.

Especially the thingamie that looks like it should go squooka squooka squooka!

(Er, that's the, um ... the Beholder? I suppose I should learn its name, instead of just calling it the squooka monster.)


Pete, Husband of Jilli - Jun 12, 2008 7:45:33 pm PDT #934 of 26132
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd

No, it's not the beholder. Its the Gibbering Orb. Raven did the beholder.


Atropa - Jun 12, 2008 7:47:12 pm PDT #935 of 26132
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oh. Why did I think it was the Beholder? Because I really should have remembered the Gibbering part.