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Gaming 1: You are likely to be eaten by a grue

A thread for the discussion of games: board, LARP, MMORPG, video, tabletop RPG, game theory etc. etc. and all attendant news, developments and ancillary subjects thereof, as well as coordinating/scheduling games either online or IRL. All are welcome to chime in, talk about their favorite games or learn about gaming of any sort.

PLEASE TO WHITEFONT SPOILERS for video games, RPG modules or anything for which foreknowledge of events might lessen one's enjoyment of whatever gaming experience.


omnis_audis - Jun 02, 2008 10:53:14 am PDT #825 of 26132
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Adepts is calling to me from your description. Too advance of a character for a newbie?


Miracleman - Jun 02, 2008 10:54:01 am PDT #826 of 26132
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Adepts is calling to me from your description.

Dang. I'm toying with a Phys Ad.


Pete, Husband of Jilli - Jun 02, 2008 10:54:06 am PDT #827 of 26132
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd

I know Shadowrun is a great love for many of you guys - especially Joe - but I just plain cannot stand the notion of Cyberpunk meets Fantasy.

I understand it's a perfectly valid concept for fiction, but for whatever reason it just sets my teeth on edge. I guess everyone's got something like that... what's yours?


Sean K - Jun 02, 2008 10:55:43 am PDT #828 of 26132
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

SR isn't d20?

Nope. It's always been it's own system, but the system mechanics have undergone four full revamps. The most recent one (SR3 to SR4) is easily the most fundamental mechanical restructuring they've done yet. It's also the best system redesign they've done.

In a lot of ways,

SR4:Shadowrun::d20:D&D


Pete, Husband of Jilli - Jun 02, 2008 10:57:27 am PDT #829 of 26132
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd

oh, SR isn't d20?

BWAH! Oh hell no, and you should be thankful.

ION, Magic is reducing the number of cards (but not sets) it produces a year. It's also added a new rarity level though the way they're re-engineering the card mix means it won't take much more to collect a set. It does, however, mean they need maybe 15 to 20% less card art per year so less money spent on art. Less work for artists. Bit of a mess really.


Laga - Jun 02, 2008 11:02:14 am PDT #830 of 26132
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

oh that sucks, Pete.

you should be thankful

but I wuv my twenty-sided die.


Sean K - Jun 02, 2008 11:06:28 am PDT #831 of 26132
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I know Shadowrun is a great love for many of you guys - especially Joe - but I just plain cannot stand the notion of Cyberpunk meets Fantasy.

This bugged me too when the system first came out way back when, but I had enough fun playing it when I tried it that I managed to get past it.

I guess everyone's got something like that... what's yours?

Not quite what you're asking but this really describes my reaction to 4E so far. I'm sure it's a fine game, but everything I hear about the system just sets my teeth on edge


CaBil - Jun 02, 2008 11:06:59 am PDT #832 of 26132
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Yeah, and the latest update also upgraded some of the background, so that the cyberpunk aspects are no longer as Gibson-oriented and integrate concepts such as Enhanced Reality, Virtual Tagging and aspects of Make culture with Desktop Forges, modding and pirated virtual plans...


Sean K - Jun 02, 2008 11:07:31 am PDT #833 of 26132
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That really blows, Pete.


Miracleman - Jun 02, 2008 11:09:37 am PDT #834 of 26132
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Yeah, and the latest update also upgraded some of the background, so that the cyberpunk aspects are no longer as Gibson-oriented and integrate concepts such as Enhanced Reality, Virtual Tagging and aspects of Make culture with Desktop Forges, modding and pirated virtual plans...

I also love that they addressed a problem that they had throughout the first 3 eds: storage memory.

In 2nd and 3rd there was a whole stupid formula for how much storage you need, how much it cost blah blah blah...

In 4th Ed they just went "storage is so cheap these days that, for game purposes, it's free. Just take as much as you want. Fuck."