BSG

Tigh and Chief, since we now need to come up with 15, are we still playing cards into this check? (Given that Zarek is not able to help and I can only help a little.)

BSG

Ugh. I really don't want to tank this one, but Destiny certainly didn't help us. Depending on what Tigh has, we might be able to get it close.

I just really don't want to drop any resource to 2 right before back to back Cylon turns. On the other hand, I'd hate to waste cards just to lose population anyway.

Grrr. Trying to figure out to phrase things without violating secrecy rules.

I think we have to be confident we can pass at least one hypothetical check the toasters throw at us before we can give up on this one.

BSG

I think, Per the FAQ, that you can state how many cards you intend to play. (I'll check on that when I can.) you can also state whether the total is high or low (or medium, if you play multiple cards.)

Edit: reading again, I think that being able to specify how many cards might apply only n it's your turn to add them (which might matter for a F2F game, but doesn't here). But it's ambiguous, so it's the Mod's call. (I think it'd at least be ok to say whether you can play no, one, a few or several cards.)

BSG

(Edited since BT objected.) I can play a medium amount into the check via multiple cards.

BSG

No, you can't. You can say whether the total is low, medium or high. You can't break it down into individual cards.

BSG

I went back and changed it, but apparently the FAQ needs to be clearer, then. Since it says you can say you have a high card or a low card or even "I'm playing five low cards into this check."

BSG

No, you can't. You can say whether the total is low, medium or high. You can't break it down into individual cards.

I disagree with this. According to my reading of the FAQ, you could say I'm playing 1 low and 1 high card into the check.

When in doubt, players may make statements that are “polar opposites”. This means that players may say if they have a “high” or “low” strength card, but may not say that they have a “pretty high”, “kinda low” or even a “medium” strength card.

Players may also say such statements as “I am playing five low cards to this skill check”. They may do this because the number of cards being added to the skill check is open information.

In any case, given what I think you both have color-wise, I can't imagine we can pass this check unless Tigh can make a solid contribution with his card. So, before I post my play, I will wait for Tigh to say if his card is low or high.

Enunciating each individual card goes well beyond giving information in polar opposites. It gives multiple items of information on a single play. It also gets you very close to listing the cards you're playing, which is not permitted. The example given, you'll note, applies one description ("low") to the entire play of five cards.

Finally, it doesn't pass the smell test. Being able to provide that kind of detail would make it far too diffeicult for hidden Cylons to sabotage skill checks, which is kind of the point of the secrecy rules. In short, it's not supposed to be that easy for humans to plan out skill checks.

The example given, you'll note, applies one description ("low") to the entire play of five cards.

I get your point, but I don't agree with your interpretation. It is not a description of the entire play, it is a description of each card.

It says 5 low cards. If you can say that, then you could say 5 high cards, or 2 low cards, or 2 high cards. How does that not mean that you could say 1 low and 1 high card?

It says 5 low cards. If you can say that, then you could say 5 high cards, or 2 low cards, or 2 high cards. How does that not mean that you could say 1 low and 1 high card?

Because:

You can only speak in polar opposites
You can't list the cards you played
It doesn't pass the smell test

My point about the example given is simply why it doesn't contradict the rest of the secrecy rules.