Occasionally I'm callous and strange.

Willow ,'The Killer In Me'


Gaming 1: You are likely to be eaten by a grue

A thread for the discussion of games: board, LARP, MMORPG, video, tabletop RPG, game theory etc. etc. and all attendant news, developments and ancillary subjects thereof, as well as coordinating/scheduling games either online or IRL. All are welcome to chime in, talk about their favorite games or learn about gaming of any sort.

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NoiseDesign - Mar 01, 2010 11:30:49 am PST #5863 of 26134
Our wings are not tired

Woohoo!


DeathQuaker - Mar 01, 2010 12:26:08 pm PST #5864 of 26134
Illigitimi non carborundum

I'd just wanted to be clear on my intentions. It's easier to relieve the tension of the BSG board game when you're actually around the table chucking pretzels at each other.

Well done, y'all. Thanks for bringing me in.

That XKCD post up-thread was hilarious.


Laga - Mar 01, 2010 12:35:07 pm PST #5865 of 26134
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

That XKCD post up-thread was hilarious.

I sent it to all my gamer friends with the subject line "thank goodness the pizza dice didn't get mixed in".


billytea - Mar 01, 2010 12:49:00 pm PST #5866 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

My favourite xkcd strip for BSG, which I think encapsulated Boomer's unfortunate situation quite well, is this: [link]


billytea - Mar 01, 2010 12:52:16 pm PST #5867 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I'll contribute some thoughts about this game a little later. First, I encourage the players to chime in if they want, on how they saw the game.


Laga - Mar 01, 2010 1:08:20 pm PST #5868 of 26134
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I'm definitely never playing Boomer again. How have previous Boomers (cylon or not) been able to talk their way out of the brig?

I wish I had used my once per game ability to fail the last check. I shouldn't have waited so long for the other cylon to reveal.

Unrelatedly... my favorite gaming xkcd


NoiseDesign - Mar 01, 2010 1:47:35 pm PST #5869 of 26134
Our wings are not tired

BSG

I truly didn't have a good idea of anyone to peg as a Cylon until the very end.


DeathQuaker - Mar 01, 2010 3:58:30 pm PST #5870 of 26134
Illigitimi non carborundum

BSG

I shouldn't have waited either. I have never been the Cylon before and it was hard coming in in the middle of the game, and I really had no idea what I was doing.

Ah well, the things we learn. Next game I play I will at least be more confident.

Yeah, Boomer's weakness seems broken and not in her favor. I was thinking, "Well, she can save up Purples to break out" and then remembered in the brig you can only put one card in a skill check. The best she could do would be to play a P5 and then hope someone would lower the difficulty for her--which I totally would have done had I ever been online when it was Laga's turn, and I feel like crap for that (and that's not something that would have happened in an actual tabletop game). I didn't even think Boomer was the other Cylon for awhile, I just felt bad that the player was stymied for half the game. Frak strategy, if it keeps the player from having fun, it's not a good rule.

The other part of the problem is that anyone who helps Boomer leave also puts that player under suspicion, so no one wants to help.

General thoughts on the game--hard to say since I was only in half of it, and I would have loved to have talked to my predecessor to understand what his strategy was before I took on the character (since Zarek was a Cylon the whole game). Seemed like people worked well together. There were some very lucky card draws and die rolls in there as a whole. Most of the crises seemed to be succeeded--which I have not seen before in BSG. A combination of really good team tactics and some good card draws.

For awhile I thought Apollo or Helo was the other Cylon. The latter because he was working the hardest to cast suspicion onto other players. Apollo because I suspected him of spiking the deck a few times, but they must have been Boomer's or Destiny's cards.

Laga: YES. Gary Gygax takes Death through the Tomb of Horrors. Most excellent.


Laga - Mar 01, 2010 4:05:25 pm PST #5871 of 26134
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

BSG

I didn't start spiking until the last few checks. I kept thinking if I played nice I could get out of the brig.


Kalshane - Mar 01, 2010 4:49:20 pm PST #5872 of 26134
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

BSG

HUMANS WIN!!

Aw, man. I was planning this whole big dramatic speech about how even though our president was a traitor and the Admiral was grievously wounded, we were close to our destination and with enough pluck and determination we could pull together as a people and win one for the Gipper, or something like that. But no, you had to be all logical and push the win button.

I mean..."Yay team human!" Yeah, that's it.

More seriously, thanks to BT for running another great game. I had a lot of fun.

I think, as humans, we had some good luck this time. Yeah, we got hit with a lot Cylon attacks, but we were always fortunate to be able to jump away when things started getting really hairy. It also didn't seem like we had all that many agonizing choices that forced people to appear suspicious for making the "wrong" choice, which didn't help the Cylons at all. When no one is acting remotely toasterish, you don't want to be the first one to draw attention to yourself.

I honestly didn't think we had any Cylons until the Sleeper phase, and then I didn't know who to peg until towards the end when Zarek and Boomer both started acting a little hinky (though in a normal game it probably wouldn't have even stood out. But we had zero hints of anyone playing for the other side prior to that.) Prior to that I thought maybe Boomer had both Cylon cards and was playing nice to try to get sprung.

I'm sorry you ended up stuck in the Brig for the last half of the game, Laga. Though I only watched the first game, instead of playing, I think the reason the previous Boomer managed to get loose was because of a combination of multiple people acting suspicious, and almost every player except Apollo (the Cylon, no less) doing time in lockdown making Team Human a little more skittish about leaving people to rot without clear proof.

I suspect that absent any proof to the contrary, most groups are going to leave Boomer locked up simply because she's already there, so it doesn't cost them any cards to keep her there provided she doesn't attempt a jailbreak, and statistically she's the most-likely to be a Cylon (unless Baltar is around, in which case it's a tie.)

To be honest, I think if you had tried to escape, I wouldn't have bothered playing cards to keep you in up until the point you tried getting Apollo brigged. From my perspective, it wasn't worth playing cards to free the most-likely Cylon, but it also wasn't worth playing cards to keep you locked up without proof you deserved to be there.

I will say, out of all the characters, I think Boomer has the toughest weakness to deal with, whereas I honestly think Helo has the easiest. Yeah, not being to act in the first round kind of sucks, but at least you know you're getting it out of the way right off the bat and then you're free and clear. Boomer, meanwhile, as evidenced in this game, could potentially spend the rest of the game cooling her heels in the brig without being able to do anything about it.