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A thread for the discussion of games: board, LARP, MMORPG, video, tabletop RPG, game theory etc. etc. and all attendant news, developments and ancillary subjects thereof, as well as coordinating/scheduling games either online or IRL. All are welcome to chime in, talk about their favorite games or learn about gaming of any sort.

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DavidS - Dec 19, 2018 8:24:52 am PST #25460 of 26133
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From a Vulture interview with the SNL writers who did the recent Weezer sketch. Apparently they're nerdy about other stuff as well.

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Alan, is there anything that gets you as heated as Weezer and Shrek do for these two?
Alan: Yes, basically anything that I care about. If you razzle me, I'll razz you back. The thing that interests me about writing sketches like this one is that if you replace "the movie Shrek" or "Weezer" with any other movie or band, it still makes sense. I think everyone has had some version of this argument before. I've definitely gone slathering, froth-mouthed mad over which edition of Dungeons & Dragons is better.

Okay, which one?
Alan: Okay, here's the thing: Is 5th Edition the most accessible? Yes. Does that make it the best? Maybe. But if you want to get down to brass tacks and do a meat grinder, and roll 50 characters in a day and really play with stats and do some freaking number-crunching, then you go 2e all day.

So you're prioritizing the mechanics and statistics over a chance for interactive storytelling.
Alan: Just because 2nd Edition has more number-crunching doesn't necessitate playing the game in a less narrative style.
How do you get a chance to play the characters, fill out their backstory, if they die like three moves in?
Alan: Okay, wow. I get it. I get that everyone wants to cosplay their favorite Game of Thrones characters in 5th Edition, but here's the thing …

Eli: This is a nightmare.

Alan: We're here to roll dice and hit trolls!


Kalshane - Dec 19, 2018 5:10:36 pm PST #25461 of 26133
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

That's awesome!

FWIW, when I was younger I loved all the number-crunching, but now that I have a family 5E hits that sweet spot of just enough crunch to make it interesting without having to spend 5 hours developing a baddie my players are going to kill in 2 rounds.


billytea - Dec 19, 2018 7:20:58 pm PST #25462 of 26133
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

FWIW, when I was younger I loved all the number-crunching, but now that I have a family 5E hits that sweet spot of just enough crunch to make it interesting without having to spend 5 hours developing a baddie my players are going to kill in 2 rounds.

This exactly. I tried running Ryan through a 3e adventure a little while back. Had to abort it, too much work for him (and me). I've started him through Tales from the Yawning Portal now. A set of converted dungeon crawls is just perfect, because "I get that everyone wants to cosplay their favourite Game of Thrones characters in 5th Edition, but here's the thing... We're here to roll dice and hit trolls!"


Kalshane - Dec 20, 2018 9:19:06 am PST #25463 of 26133
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Yeah. I've done some improvised Homebrew for my son here and there but if he ever decides he wants me to run a regular game for him and his friends I'll likely just run them through TFtYP.

Side note, for the first adventure in that, did you give him a way to rescue the people taken over by the tree? The way things happen in the official adventure don't sit right with me. I've decided if I ever run it they can free the tree-bound folks by feeding them the Life fruit. It makes logical sense to me and gives them a nice little "do the right thing vs. earn a profit" decision.


billytea - Dec 20, 2018 11:54:49 am PST #25464 of 26133
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

He hasn't reached that part yet - we've only just started - but you make a good point, especially for a kid. I think I'll do it that way too.


Kalshane - Dec 20, 2018 1:21:15 pm PST #25465 of 26133
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

It's just kind of bizarre that the adventure by default doesn't give you any way of actually doing what were hired to do.

Depending on the kid I could definitely see them feeling like they failed.


Kalshane - Dec 27, 2018 6:02:51 am PST #25466 of 26133
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I was given Soul Calibur 6 for Christmas. I've already spent way too many hours making custom characters. (I hear it includes a pretty decent fighting game, too.)


billytea - Feb 03, 2019 3:55:04 am PST #25467 of 26133
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Ryan just today finished off the Sunless Citadel! I used your suggestion and allowed the Life fruit to be able to restore the Hucreles. (I also decided that Sir Brayford would be the Hucrele brother instead, so he could restore both of them.)

The final battle looked like it was going to be a tough one for him, as he got some very poor initiative results and all; but then his sorcerer - at the time restrained by an entangle spell - decided to attack the tree with a chromatic orb (fire). He rolled a mighty 20 on the damage, and with its fire vulnerability, he took it down in a single shot. So he's feeling quite chuffed with himself.


Gudanov - Feb 03, 2019 6:13:22 am PST #25468 of 26133
Coding and Sleeping

Yay for Ryan!


Kalshane - Feb 04, 2019 4:57:52 am PST #25469 of 26133
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Nice, BT!

I'm actually putting together an in-person D&D game for the first time in 15 years. We rolled characters on Saturday night (ended up having to do that part online because my wife is sick.) I may have to eventually buy myself a cheap laptop to use at the table because after running games online for the past several years I'm finding using paper kind of awkward.