Buffy. When I saw you stop the world from, you know, ending, I just assumed that was a big week for you. Turns out I suddenly find myself needing to know the plural of 'apocalypse.'

Riley ,'Potential'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Jesse - Oct 08, 2008 12:22:12 pm PDT #967 of 6687
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, my building is pre-war, and you can't hear anything between apartments through the walls, but you can always hear through the doors.


erikaj - Oct 08, 2008 12:43:39 pm PDT #968 of 6687
Always Anti-fascist!

Just checking...mystery fans are hard-core(Represent!) as you know. If they caught me in a mistake like that, I'm a rookie for life.


Typo Boy - Oct 08, 2008 12:53:16 pm PDT #969 of 6687
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Not always. John Dickson Carr once had a murderer use dry ice to kill a victim - mistaking frozen carbon dioxide for frozen carbon monoxide. A small block of dry ice in a sealed room, and as it evaporated in filled the room where the victim slept with carbon dioxide "the deadliest gas known to man".


Toddson - Oct 08, 2008 12:55:19 pm PDT #970 of 6687
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

ah ... The Case of the Constant Suicides!


Typo Boy - Oct 08, 2008 12:56:20 pm PDT #971 of 6687
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And Toddson wins the no-prize.


Toddson - Oct 08, 2008 1:00:10 pm PDT #972 of 6687
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

um ... no-prize? the way things are going, that sums up my life.


Typo Boy - Oct 08, 2008 1:05:31 pm PDT #973 of 6687
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

From comic books. A no-prize is a good thing. Very strong form of recognition from an industry that did not give its editors enough money to give actual prizes. Of course I'm not Stan Lee, or any of the other great comics artists who gave those, so my No Prize does not mean quite as much as the original.


Toddson - Oct 08, 2008 1:06:44 pm PDT #974 of 6687
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

ah! thank you!


DavidS - Oct 09, 2008 1:32:37 pm PDT #975 of 6687
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From John Joseph Adams blog.

Three science fiction magazine editors answer this question.

What plots are you sick to death of seeing, and/or what would you like to see more of?

Van Gelder: Currently, the plot I’m seeing most often is: A previously unheard-of virus comes along, alters all of humanity in a way that has never before occurred, and one lucky person is immune. We’ve run a couple of stories with this plot already and it’s quickly growing tiresome. I’ve also been getting lots of alternate history stories about different outcomes to the Civil War or to World War II.

What would I like to see more of? Well, if Santa got my list, this year I’ll be getting more science fiction stories like "Finisterra" and "The Merchant at the Alchemist’s Gate" that are really good and don’t seem to follow the same paths as most of the other science fiction stories I’m reading these days.

Williams: I never know which plots I want to see more of until I see them, because they’re the plots that do something I’m not expecting to see. I would definitely like to put a short-term moratorium on stories that lead off with exploding spaceships. Exploding spaceships that happen further into the story are currently okay, however.

Groppi: We’ve been seeing an awful lot of retold or reworked fairy tales. Of course, we’ve also bought a fair number of them, so I can see why people keep sending them, but at this point we’re a little burnt out. Retellings are difficult, because on the one hand they can leverage a lot of emotional and narrative power by tapping into these familiar images and plots, but authors really need to be thinking about whether they’re bringing anything really new or meaningful to the retelling.

We also see a lot of what I’ve started calling the "foofy slipstreamy stories," pieces that are very lyrical, very image-driven, and sometimes very beautiful, but also kind of insubstantial, with no clear sense of what the dream-like magical images mean, or whether they’re even real. Again, this is a type of story that we’ve developed a reputation for favoring, which is undoubtedly why we get so many of them, but I’m tired of them at this point.

Speaking just for myself, and not necessarily for my co-editors, I would love to see more science fiction. Something with robots, or quantum physics, or alien contact. I’m really a science fiction reader at heart, and not a fantasy reader.


Typo Boy - Oct 12, 2008 7:57:53 pm PDT #976 of 6687
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Reading this, if I were trying to write any fiction beyond extremely short pieces I'd appreciate the commercial head up. But as a reader, "retold fairy tales" is an entire genre (in the popular sense of the use of the word). All fairy tales are retold. The brothers Grimm were remaking new stories. And I don't think there is really an end to the potential to imbue them with new meanings. Of course it can be done badly, as what can't. As a reader, I'd love to see a really first rate horror writer tackle Hansel and Gretel. Child abandonment, imprisonment by a serial killer, during a time of horrifying poverty - maybe the thirty years war.