Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?

Xander ,'End of Days'


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Allyson - Aug 28, 2008 9:49:32 am PDT #803 of 6681
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Cliff Burns is AWESOME. I've never felt so centered.


Connie Neil - Aug 28, 2008 10:03:30 am PDT #804 of 6681
brillig

Dedicate your next book to him.


Connie Neil - Aug 28, 2008 10:07:08 am PDT #805 of 6681
brillig

For the curious, this thread shows Cliff at his "best"

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Barb - Aug 28, 2008 10:10:25 am PDT #806 of 6681
“Not dead yet!”

I know who this guy is!! I remember reading about him on Media bistro's galleycat, where he completely and utterly dissed an editor (actually, the entire publishing industry) on his blog.

I remember reading a little bit of his "opus" and thinking it was the biggest load of crap I've ever read in my life. He's never going to get traditionally published because a) he's a talentless hack and b) he has all the charm of a rabid dog.


SailAweigh - Aug 28, 2008 10:18:34 am PDT #807 of 6681
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I don't know who J***arya is in that thread, but I think I'm in love with him/her. Smackdown!


Connie Neil - Aug 28, 2008 10:24:15 am PDT #808 of 6681
brillig

OMG, he replied to GalleyCat! And confirmed everything they said about him!

I hope the few people who are agreeing with Cliff in the threads on Library Thing are aware of his tendencies, otherwise I'm going to be dismayed at the folk over there.

Or I need to visit other threads, like a sane person.


Barb - Aug 28, 2008 10:48:32 am PDT #809 of 6681
“Not dead yet!”

You know, it's so funny how his name was niggling at me, then when I put the pieces together, how it all fell into place. I blogged about the GalleyCat incident, but it's no wonder I was drawing a blank on it, since it all happened a couple of days after one of my deadlines and my brain was cottage cheese. Even so, some part of my brain recalled what a dickhead this cat was.


Barb - Aug 28, 2008 11:58:09 am PDT #810 of 6681
“Not dead yet!”

Has he ever been published?

Got rejected by 65 editors and who knows how many agents before deciding to publish his magnum opus on his website as a free download. And... and... if you go by the sheer numbers of downloads, he's a "best seller" in Canada.

I loved his reasoning for it:

"The fact that I've been forced to publish it myself to my mind reveals something seriously fucked up in the publishing biz. How could they let this one slip through their fingers? It's got everything going for it: funny, attractive leads, supernatural demon spawn galore..."

Can't help but wonder what his query letter read like...


Wolfram - Aug 28, 2008 12:07:25 pm PDT #811 of 6681
Visilurking

Can't help but wonder what his query letter read like...

Dear Sir/Madam:

You're welcome.

-Cliff
enc.


Amy - Aug 28, 2008 2:22:43 pm PDT #812 of 6681
Because books.

Oh wow. I used to get letters from people like that.

"Dear Editor:

[Blah blah introductioncakes.]

This novel is a can't-miss bestseller! We're going to make pots of money together! I can't wait to speak to you so we can start making plans!

All best,

Pompous, Arrogant, Completely Deluded Author"

We passed those letters around the office for laughs. ::nods::