Buffy? I like that. That girl's so hot, she's buffy.

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The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


erikaj - Feb 18, 2019 12:30:20 pm PST #6547 of 6681
Always Anti-fascist!

Another new blog post. [link]


Topic!Cindy - Mar 17, 2019 3:14:48 pm PDT #6548 of 6681
What is even happening?

So, my youngest son has written a book -- a 120K word Sci-Fi novel.

He wants to pursue having it published and I don't know where to begin. I take it we should find an agent, etc. How do we do that?

In the meantime, I am beta-reading it. I don't want to edit him or rewrite it, and I think hearing some kinds of feedback from your mom can dampen the creative flame, which I definitely don't want to do.

I told him the first time through, I'm only going to read it to read the story, and if I notice a glaring error of some sort, I'll tell him.

I was thinking we can then talk about what kind of feedback he thinks he'll find helpful.

Can anyone suggest some beta reading guidelines? What kind of feedback (when I'm on subsequent read-throughs) do you think might be useful, without feeling like mom-criticism?


Amy - Mar 17, 2019 5:11:21 pm PDT #6549 of 6681
Because books.

That's awesome, Cindy!

My honest advice here would be to do exactly what you said and read it through for any story bumps or questions, and explain those constructively. Then I would encourage him to find the best writing sites/communities to start reading, so he can learn the basic ropes. If he's serious about writing and publishing, he's going to have to know how to do that.


hippocampus - Mar 18, 2019 12:37:08 am PDT #6550 of 6681
not your mom's socks.

What Amy said! This is so great. Cindy, how old is your son? There are great workshops for all ages, in person and online.


Jesse - Mar 18, 2019 7:26:58 am PDT #6551 of 6681
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The two published authors above may have better specific advice on the agent front, but this seems like a good overview: [link]


Topic!Cindy - Mar 18, 2019 8:12:22 am PDT #6552 of 6681
What is even happening?

Jesse, thanks so much. That's a great start.

Hippocampus, he's almost 19.

He was his H.S. valedictorian, is a mechanical engineering major (and will minor in aerospace engineering, which is his passion, and his uni just started offering it).

He is part of his school's honor's college (it's a state school known for its engineering programs and he got their top academic scholarship). His first semester in college, he got all As and a B.

[Edited to remove detail]

He's currently, reluctantly on a medical leave from university, because of a new diagnosis with a chronic disease we have to get under control.

I'm glad he has something positive to focus on, because he's given up so much lately (even the scholarship -- that is, we will have to appeal to have it reinstated, and there's no guarantee, and he had to forego a fellowship program that was another award, because they don't allow deferrals for any reason).

He's a beautiful writer. I'm about 40 page in, and while I see things that need reworking (character introduction, and talky-meat characters, which I know all too well), I think he has something here.

I want to help him, without discouraging him and without controlling or interfering in his process, if that makes sense.

Edit: Amy, I sent you a DM elsewhere.


Atropa - Mar 18, 2019 10:21:21 am PDT #6553 of 6681
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Scrivener is awesome. I've even started using it to write GCS posts, because having them all in a project is helpful.

I need to get into the 100 words a day habit.


Gudanov - Mar 18, 2019 10:33:01 am PDT #6554 of 6681
Coding and Sleeping

I found that Query Tracker was very helpful when I was looking for (and found) an agent.


Gudanov - Mar 18, 2019 10:34:57 am PDT #6555 of 6681
Coding and Sleeping

Also Query Shark is a good resource for learning how to forge a decent query letter.


hippocampus - Mar 23, 2019 5:09:48 pm PDT #6556 of 6681
not your mom's socks.

Query Tracker and Agent Query are both wonderful resources.

I loved the SFF Online Writing Workshop for community / critique, but that was years ago and I'm not sure what it's like now - [link]

There's also Alpha Workshop - [link] - a few others but it depends on how well he's feeling.