No, no, no, sir. No more chick pit for you. Come on.

Riley ,'Lessons'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Typo Boy - Feb 16, 2011 6:40:33 pm PST #4061 of 6690
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Bibliography Alphabetizing question

Hill, Joe and Mary Sue. 2002.

Hill, Joe and Andy Aardvark. 2003.

Which comes first? Does date trump second author or second author trump date?


Barb - Feb 16, 2011 9:28:46 pm PST #4062 of 6690
“Not dead yet!”

Go, Gud! May the responses be (relatively) speedy and positive!


Gudanov - Feb 17, 2011 9:22:45 am PST #4063 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

One of the things this agent has said is that number one thing that makes her reject a fantasy manuscript is a big datadump in the first 30 pages.

Would be too cutesy to tack on something like, 'with no big datadumps' onto my first sentence about my manuscript?


Amy - Feb 17, 2011 9:23:24 am PST #4064 of 6690
Because books.

Yes.


Gudanov - Feb 17, 2011 9:33:51 am PST #4065 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

Nice definitive answer, Thanks!


Amy - Feb 17, 2011 9:35:12 am PST #4066 of 6690
Because books.

When you're reading lots of submissions, you want a concise, businesslike cover letter. Especially with fiction, what matters most is the actual manuscript.


Barb - Feb 17, 2011 9:57:14 am PST #4067 of 6690
“Not dead yet!”

Also, you don't want the agent to go into the manuscript attuned to the fact that you said there's no big datadump in the first 30 pages because then they'll be looking for it and anything that remotely smells like it will work against you.


Gudanov - Feb 17, 2011 10:44:33 am PST #4068 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

Thanks.


hippocampus - Feb 17, 2011 2:22:29 pm PST #4069 of 6690
not your mom's socks.

Short story submitted. This is a small miracle.

Honestly folks, I've spent a good chunk of my life writing copy I didn't care one way or the other about, and another good chunk smiling away at this teacher and that neighbor who asked when I was going to write a book, and until this fall, I hadn't produced anything closely resembling a complete, crafted, readable story I'd call mine. Thousands of drafts, yes. Lots of starts, a whole stack of notes, and so very many articles for other people. So yes, I care that my work gets published, and hope that it will. But right now, I'm pretty grateful to get this far. And you guys are part of the reason. So I'll take an opportunity to be grateful now, because this is something - it's a start.

Gud, -t, and tommyrot, thanks for the reads this time around and all the comments. Thanks to Amy. Thanks to Raq.


Gudanov - Feb 17, 2011 3:56:05 pm PST #4070 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

Congrats on getting it off, Sox!