Zoe: I thought you wanted to spend more time off-ship this visit. Wash: Out there is seems like it's all fancy parties. I like our party better. The dress code is easier and I know all the steps.

'Shindig'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Barb - Aug 16, 2010 9:48:46 am PDT #3534 of 6693
“Not dead yet!”

That's how I think this story wants to be told. Have you used the technique much, Barb? Are there any pitfalls of which I should be wary?

So far, I've only used the "flashback" per se, in one manuscript, the 1960s set women's fiction that's been trying to kill me for the past couple of years. While it's set primarily in 1965, I do have to show some scenes set in 1959 and 1960 and I think the thing I've tried to be careful with is to not overuse it-- but it has been an integral component in showing events that shaped the main character that couldn't have been shown any other way, other than a massive backstory dump of "telling."

Something I've been using throughout as chapter headers is headlines from the time period-- and when I flashback, I use one from the year I'm flashing back to, such as:

CUBA REBELS KILL HIGH CASTRO AIDE
Bombs Rock Havana
R. Hart Phillips
The New York Times
December 1, 1960

I then reinforce it with an italicized December 1960 just before I go into the meat of the chapter.

That's just one way. I'm sure there are others.


Amy - Aug 16, 2010 10:36:30 am PDT #3535 of 6693
Because books.

I used a lot of flashbacks in Pictures of Us, and in Cold Kiss, and usually I just start a new chapter with the flashback. If you lead into it right, it's easy to tell that the character is remembering something from the past -- in Cold Kiss it was even easier because it's present tense, and the flashbacks aren't.

I don't think you should ever overuse them, but some stories lend themselves to it, or require if the past figures in heavily. It all depends.

All I know is, I just turned in the revisions on Cold Kiss and it's not time to eat ALL THE ICE CREAM.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 16, 2010 10:44:22 am PDT #3536 of 6693
What is even happening?

I know you're wicked busy with the move and the kids, but did you happen to send Pictures of Us yet, Amy? I checked Amazon again, yesterday. I am would love to buy it, but t's still unavailable.


Amy - Aug 16, 2010 10:51:11 am PDT #3537 of 6693
Because books.

I didn't, but it's on my list! There's a copy downstairs ready to go. I just had to get the revisions done first, and now comes ... everything else. Sigh. It's coming, though! Promise.

Crap. I hope I still have your address. I'll shout if I don't.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Aug 16, 2010 11:25:31 am PDT #3538 of 6693
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I have no relevant comments here, except that

Stephen King's On Writing

is a great book.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 16, 2010 4:30:49 pm PDT #3539 of 6693
What is even happening?

Amy, I'll send it to you on facebook (which I have open, as opposed to gmail, which I don't) right now.

Naomi, I agree. On Writing is great. And erika, by no means do you need to read it (any any sense). But, that said, he's not INSISTENT about things. He's just speaking from experience. The book is as much of a memoir as it as a how-to. He also acknowledges where he holds a strong opinion, and yet, can find successes that suggest his opinion is wrong (in fact, flashbacks may be one of those instances).


Amy - Aug 16, 2010 4:35:16 pm PDT #3540 of 6693
Because books.

The book is as much of a memoir as it as a how-to.

That's what I love about King. He's never didactic, and if he is, he admits it (and admits he might be wrong). I just love his conversational style, in everything he writes, actually, but especially in On Writing.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 16, 2010 4:42:52 pm PDT #3541 of 6693
What is even happening?

Me too, Amy. His only Stompy-sections are those on spelling and grammar. He's also the one that's made me think that maybe MAYBE, when my opus is done, I can find a house/editor, rather than an agent. Not saying that's the way I'm going, but Little Brown is ten miles from me, you know?

eta...

Also, tonight, even though I'm not writing (at this moment) can I tell you how fricking high I am on my book story? It's going to be offensive and piss people off, but I lurve it.


Amy - Aug 16, 2010 5:24:59 pm PDT #3542 of 6693
Because books.

I get a little stompy about spelling, grammar, and punctuation myself, so I sympathize with him there.

And being high on your BOOK is an excellent thing. That's how you get it written, babe.


Typo Boy - Aug 16, 2010 5:55:24 pm PDT #3543 of 6693
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

In terms of writing books. I actually think they can be useful in the same way that a child care book can be. Not as a "this set of rules is the one true way" but as "hey, maybe I should try that next time x happens." Or "Hey that's an approach I had not thought of to this chronic problem. Maybe that'll work." Even if the writer thinks they are preaching the one true way, that doesn't mean you can't cherry pick what you find useful and leave the rest.