Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Gudanov - Aug 05, 2010 5:54:45 am PDT #3477 of 6693
Coding and Sleeping

Speaking of the The Dead Mountain. I expect to be done with my chopping revision in a couple of weeks. Then I'm on going over my feedback and deciding what items I need to address and which I don't. Then it's editing and tightening. My first couple of chapters will go through a few more cycles though.

I'm hoping to be done and have made a synopsis by the end of the year.


Amy - Aug 05, 2010 6:12:56 am PDT #3478 of 6693
Because books.

Gud, I'm all for polishing until you think the *story* and the characters really sing, but I just wouldn't worry so much about a thousand words here or there. Speaking from experience, if an editor really falls in love with the book, s/he's going to want a chance to make suggestions for one, and s/he would also be able to give input on where to cut.

Plus? A book that's 50K words over length than one that's 3K over. There's a lot that can be done with pagination, type size, margins, etc., to make a book fall within the correct parameters for its price point, and that's the important thing. Books aren't a certain length because editors necessarily want them that way, but because books of a certain length are a certain size, and their price point is decided by paper costs, etc., for that size.


Gudanov - Aug 05, 2010 6:42:28 am PDT #3479 of 6693
Coding and Sleeping

I have eased up on what I wanted to get down to. Originally it was 120k, then 122k, then 123k, but now I'm just shooting for under 125k.

I'm pretty much done with outright cutting now. I did also add a few things during this shrinking process because they felt like they needed adding. I think natural tightening will get me the last 2-3k to get under 125k total.

But I'm sure you're right, you know immeasurably more than I do. Now that I'm not at 153k, it's all going to be up to making it clean, fixing the problems found by feedback (at least the ones I think are legit), and hoping it manages to find someone who likes the style which is sort of epic fantasy with juiced up pacing.


Amy - Aug 05, 2010 6:47:25 am PDT #3480 of 6693
Because books.

As someone who used to acquire books, the most important thing for me was an excellent story with characters that felt true. I can fix your semi-colons and your pacing and some other mechanics, but none of that is important, even if it's perfect, if the story doesn't really grab me.


Gudanov - Aug 05, 2010 7:05:47 am PDT #3481 of 6693
Coding and Sleeping

Well, I like the story. Though I think I'd like it even better if I didn't know everything that was going to happen.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 05, 2010 10:40:42 am PDT #3482 of 6693
What is even happening?

Oh that's cute. You need your own spoiler font for your thoughts.


Gudanov - Aug 05, 2010 12:59:39 pm PDT #3483 of 6693
Coding and Sleeping

I totally do.

This is fun, find out who you write like:

[link]

For my novel I get Robert Foster Wallace (shrug) whoever he is. My short story gets William Gibson which is awesome.


§ ita § - Aug 05, 2010 2:43:36 pm PDT #3484 of 6693
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Apparently that I Write Like tool is just a page hit generator that doesn't actually do anything in the background.


Gudanov - Aug 05, 2010 5:19:56 pm PDT #3485 of 6693
Coding and Sleeping

Hmm... I never thought it was something to be taken seriously, but there's a little thing on how it supposedly works (basically like a spam filter).

[link]


Topic!Cindy - Aug 05, 2010 8:21:03 pm PDT #3486 of 6693
What is even happening?

I did that a week or two ago. When I pasted a Lost recap into that, I got Joyce, which is way too apt for a page hit generator (not that I'm anything approaching Joyce, but the nature of recapping + the nature of Lost is very Joycian). When I pasted fic into it, I got Atwood (Buffy fic) and the guy who wrote Fight Club, whose name I'm too lazy to Google (VM fic). I understand Atwood got Stephen King, which tickles me.

eta the reason I really posted

This morning, I had to run to the store really early. I saw a man and he spawned a whole book in my head (not like that; he wasn't particularly hot or anything). I'm going to sleep now and am praying I get a Stephanie Meyer-esque dream of the whole damn story, because thinking is hard. Heck, learning enough about my Macbook to set up the document was hard enough.