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Typo Boy - Jan 27, 2009 6:40:30 am PST #1262 of 6690
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Everything has that white glow again.
I've been shoveling snow again,
Calling Ma nature a Ho again.
Its nothing like being in love.


Toddson - Jan 27, 2009 7:53:16 am PST #1263 of 6690
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

We have snow ... and the usual panic. silly people.


Typo Boy - Jan 27, 2009 8:05:23 am PST #1264 of 6690
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Try a 35 yard long driveway sloping steeply upward. Leading to a street that never gets plowed. You won't have much love for snow either. (Mind you if it only lasts a day or two, no problem. Past that I'm pretty much trapped even if I keep the drive shoveled. )


Toddson - Jan 27, 2009 8:23:02 am PST #1265 of 6690
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

oh, no comment on you - just the people who when the first flakes show up get all panic-y.


Laga - Jan 27, 2009 9:12:50 am PST #1266 of 6690
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I miss the snow. I grew up on a cul-de-sac and the snow plow would sweep everything into a giant heap in the center and we would carve tunnels and play King of the Mountain until our toes went numb.


Typo Boy - Jan 27, 2009 4:43:13 pm PST #1267 of 6690
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

oh, no comment on you - just the people who when the first flakes show up get all panic-y.

No offense taken. Unfortunately at the moment those people are me. I felt pretty panicked at the first flakes this morning. "Will I be trapped for another five days. Will I be able to get back into my garage when I come back." Forturnately by the time I returned it had melted away. But at the moment, I have a visceral reaction to snow. I'm not scared of snow per se, but of the fact that this town is not really prepared for much of it.


Miracleman - Feb 12, 2009 5:06:45 pm PST #1268 of 6690
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

All right, say you've got a handful of material for a book about, say...customer service.

What do you have to have ready for an agent to approach them? An outline and a chapter or three? Or the whole damn book?


Allyson - Feb 12, 2009 5:12:39 pm PST #1269 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You approach an agent with a query letter. If an agent is interested, you'll need to send the following for non-fic, which is what I assume this is:

A proposal, which includes a bit about why you are qualified to write this, market analysis (how your book is like successful books/what makes it unique), an annotated bibliography, and a sample chapter.

I think I have the vampire people proposal on a flash drive somewhere, if I find it I'll be happy to send.


Typo Boy - Feb 12, 2009 5:13:51 pm PST #1270 of 6690
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

From what I understand the whole damn book is a mistake [edit: I mean having it finished before approaching the agent]. The agent wants to shape it. But they do want an outline and indication that you can finish the book. There are books out there on that, but I suspect our published authors can give you more on this than I can. Basically what you need is a good proposal.

Or What Allyson said.


Miracleman - Feb 12, 2009 5:17:26 pm PST #1271 of 6690
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Allyson if I could take a look at that proposal it would be a godsend.

The downside is, of course, that you already rock so much that this may tip you into critical rockage mass and then you'd explode.