Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - May 28, 2008 5:23:08 pm PDT #9496 of 10001

Also, maybe Jenna's not a Republican?

The Baltimore Sun is all obsessed about how she and her husband are moving into a house in South Baltimore. And she's *gasp* maybe applying for a position in a public charter school in the city. I've no love lost for her father, but damn. What an awful age to be a presidential kid. At least at teen-and-under, you are expected to be a kid and mostly allotted that space. To be making a go as an adult under that scrutiny? Uhg.

I think I don't like the placebo thing because of the deception regarding something as serious as pain. I know I'm a stoic (I haven't even taken advil for the bleach headache) but I also know I'm kinda fucked up about believing the pills will actually work when they are supposed to (see: nasty ear infections) that I'm reluctant to encourage a belief that they will when they aren't even supposed to and it's just playing mental games. I mean, GREAT if the mental games work. But I kinda don't want to play like that.


Kat - May 28, 2008 5:37:14 pm PDT #9497 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I guess the placebo doesn't bother me because I've had enough experience where the real-deal meds are supposed to work and they don't.

But I don't take a lot of meds, zyrtec not withstanding.


Kat - May 28, 2008 5:38:52 pm PDT #9498 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

So there's a site called Baby Steals, which is a lot like the woot sites, where you get a deal a day. They have the zoobie giraffe for today for half the usual price. And I totally want one, except I bought two zoobie monkeys just a few days ago and can't justify the $20 when I don't have $20.

Maybe I need to stop looking at the interweb.


megan walker - May 28, 2008 5:52:21 pm PDT #9499 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

First clafoutis of the season is in the oven. All is right with the world. Well, almost.


shrift - May 28, 2008 5:58:49 pm PDT #9500 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Kathy -- thank you for the book recs! I bookmarked your post.

I purchased and put up a new shower curtain rod. And then I made potato wedges. Oh, my god. Those were some cracktastically tasty potato wedges, you guys.


billytea - May 28, 2008 6:02:06 pm PDT #9501 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I think this is the crowd to enjoy this: [link]


Burrell - May 28, 2008 7:40:49 pm PDT #9502 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I think bandages and kisses are also placebos, just "acceptable" ones.

Totally, but in the case of kisses, they are totally free. That's a plus to me. There are other accepted placebos: name a cure for hiccups that isn't just a placebo?

I also kind of agree with the guy who says you don't want to condition your kid to always think "pill" when they are feeling bad. I know you disagree Kat, but I think toddlers are pretty quick with that conditioning anyway. Or maybe that's just my two kids.

I'm trying to think of the situation where it would be the best choice. A headache? If I suspect there's real pain, I'm reaching for a real painkiller. Upset stomach? Perhaps as there aren't good meds for kids although I've found that Gripe Water seems to actually work (I tried it myself when I was pregnant). Allergy attack maybe?


beth b - May 28, 2008 7:59:58 pm PDT #9503 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

things like kisses aren't in pill form which is the first place I see the problem.

and while there are studies on the magic of touch, kisses make you feel better not because they heal,but because someone cares


§ ita § - May 28, 2008 8:18:42 pm PDT #9504 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, Ashton Kutcher is...well...well...he's happily married to Demi Moore, and that's just weird. Helping raise the kids and having a totally healthy interaction with their father.

His image throws me off balance. More power to him, I guess. I just can't work out who his target audience is, and how his familial situation must affect that.

His camera ad is cute, where he leaves his camera "untended" and all these LA style hotties pick it up and take pictures of themselves of them, and the comes back for it playing ignorant.

I just can't think Demi would take that well.

I want more lemonade. Stomach is vat of acid. :(

IIRC there's a hierarchy of lab coats in a hospital, right? Or a code? Full-fledged doctors wear one length, students another? Which is which?


Sean K - May 28, 2008 9:05:20 pm PDT #9505 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, we've well moved on from the ghosts and monsters comment, but I'm only just now catching up, and wanted to defend myself:

I was not reacting to the percentage of people who have seen a ghost (though I remain skeptical of ghosts). My "primitive and superstitious outlook" and "bugfuck crazy" comments were about the monster in the closet statistic.