Wash: So, two days in a hospital? That's awful. Don't you just hate doctors? Simon: Hey. Wash: I mean, present company excluded. Jayne: Let's not be excluding people. That'd be rude.

'Ariel'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 28, 2008 11:28:11 am PDT #9443 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This week's Secret Lives of Women is about stalking--both stalking and being stalked. Seriously chilling stuff.

Random stats: 1 million women in the US are stalked a year. 1 in 4 female stalkers stalk someone they've been intimate with. 1 in three celebrity stalkers are female.

I think I'd give a kid a placebo. Under specific and limited circumstances. I totally recommend giving me a cplacebo, as long as they are only used when they work.

I am having such a huge craving for lemonade. Sadly I have lemonade, so it comes down to self-control.


lisah - May 28, 2008 11:28:18 am PDT #9444 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

yeah, I wouldn't give the placebo. I am tryin got teach mac that sometimes things just hurt.

Yes! That's the thing that bugs me most about it. Pain has a purpose! And learning to rely on drugs to fix everything can't be good. There was a commentary on NPR yesterday by a family physician about the placebo thing. He was very anti.


Nutty - May 28, 2008 11:30:50 am PDT #9445 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

If I'd had placebo pills available when I was a child, I probably wouldn't have faked being sick so much just to get a spoonful of Dimetapp.

I was ridiculously addicted to the flavor of Dimetapp. I don't know why. Yes, the obsession is now past.

I'm not sure, though, that you need a brand-name pill; all you really need is some of those custom-M&Ms with no Ms on them, and all you have to do is convince the kid that "strengthening medicine" (what we really called them in my family) is not a joke but the real straight-up truth.


msbelle - May 28, 2008 11:32:55 am PDT #9446 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

mac is much more risk adverse than most of his friends - Terrified of falling down and scrapes. Only recently is he learning that he will survive the bruises and cuts. He had a faceplant on the padded playground surface after his hand slipped on the monkey bars and damn it looked scary and his lip bled, but only for like 1 min.


tommyrot - May 28, 2008 11:33:17 am PDT #9447 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

If you regularly give a child placebos, at some point the child will learn the truth. I wonder if this disappointment would be like losing faith in Santa and the Easter Bunny....

Maybe they should all be tied together, and children should be told their placebos have been blessed by Santa and the Easter Bunny.

Of course, with young kids it's mama's kiss that's a placebo ("Kiss it and make it better").


Kathy A - May 28, 2008 11:33:40 am PDT #9448 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I've been in many a supposedly haunted theatre.

Aurelia, have you been in the alley behind the Ford Center for the Performing Arts (aka the Oriental)? It's where so many people tried to escape the Iroquois Theater fire 100 years ago, only to find that the fire door was an exit without a ladder, so they ended up jumping to their deaths. It's suuposed to be one of the most haunted locations in the city.

I know that Oprah is convinced that her studio is haunted--it's the old Armory Building where the dead from both the Iroquois and the Eastland disasters were taken.


msbelle - May 28, 2008 11:34:04 am PDT #9449 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

and see, we don't do Santa or the Easter Bunny either.


sarameg - May 28, 2008 11:43:43 am PDT #9450 of 10001

Once when I was wee, I tried to eat half a bottle of childrens' vitamins because I scraped my knee. Because whenever else I was sick and hurt, I took medicine, right? (long history of ear infections, so antibiotics + childrens aspirin.)

Thankfully, they caught me before I'd made too much of a dent. And FREAKED OUT.

I'm not sure it parallels the placebo discussion exactly ( I was administering the placebo, not the parents) but ... I think it is possibly not so good an idea to encourage. Hey, the kid might notice when it doesn't fucking work!


aurelia - May 28, 2008 11:47:12 am PDT #9451 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I just watched that spire intro again. The sun seems to be setting awfully far north.


aurelia - May 28, 2008 11:50:25 am PDT #9452 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Aurelia, have you been in the alley behind the Ford Center for the Performing Arts (aka the Oriental)?

Yep. That's the direct path from the Goodman to the red line. That's also where crowds gather to greet the actors from Wicked after a show. The city really cleaned up that alley a couple of years ago. I see the Haunted Chicago bus tours there all the time.

I know that Oprah is convinced that her studio is haunted--it's the old Armory Building where the dead from both the Iroquois and the Eastland disasters were taken.

I'll have to ask the people I know at Harpo about that.