Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Frankenbuddha - May 28, 2008 8:27:39 am PDT #9364 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think tommyrot just had a blackout.


Burrell - May 28, 2008 8:28:24 am PDT #9365 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

From a PR perspective, if you were high enough that you can't remember what substances you took to get there, does it really matter whether or not it was cocaine?

Actually for a few decades now "I don't remember" and "Even though I was in charge, I had no idea what was going on" have been considered perfectly legitimate excuses, at least from a PR perspective. I was so happy when Ken Lay and Whazzizface were finally held accountable in court despite using the "I had no idea" plea.


Jesse - May 28, 2008 8:31:48 am PDT #9366 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You know, theoretically, I don't care if the current president was a drunk or a cokehead or whatever 20+ years ago, as long as he (or she) isn't right now.

With Bush, it's the bullshit that comes with it, like his line about doing bad things in his "youth" when he was like 40, that make me mad.


Nutty - May 28, 2008 8:34:12 am PDT #9367 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

doing bad things in his "youth" when he was like 40, that make me mad.

Dudes! I have 8 more years in which to do bad things!! And then I might have to grow up, but only if I intend to go into politics.


msbelle - May 28, 2008 8:38:19 am PDT #9368 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I don't care about the past use either ( see our current govenor) it's the stupid lying and memory loss and position of moral superiority that so many damn politicians take. drug use, affairs, sniper fire, C'MON!


tommyrot - May 28, 2008 8:40:15 am PDT #9369 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

OK, here's where I want to live: [link] (has animation)

The cheapest condos are $750k. The most expensive is a $20 million suite, but someone already has a deposit on it.

The building will be 150 stories and 2000 feet tall.


Nutty - May 28, 2008 8:41:59 am PDT #9370 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The building will be 150 stories and 2000 feet tall.

So, even if your job is right next door, your commute will still be at least 1/2 hour. Just, vertical instead of horizontal, and there is no such thing as being able to commute in an elevator alone.


lisah - May 28, 2008 8:45:37 am PDT #9371 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Dudes! I have 8 more years in which to do bad things!!

ACK! I have less than 3 months!!!


lisah - May 28, 2008 8:45:43 am PDT #9372 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

msbelle - May 28, 2008 8:47:58 am PDT #9373 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

that building makes me dizzy.

I'm too tired to bother with trying to do bad things.