Wow, you've really mastered the power of positive giving-up.

Cordelia ,'End of Days'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - May 16, 2008 10:53:57 am PDT #7382 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

It only makes men gay.

Sure, but we can just ungay by shooting an animal. It's true, I saw it on The Simpsons.


Hil R. - May 16, 2008 10:57:26 am PDT #7383 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I thought the whole point of the 1970s was the discovery that crunchy-granola lefties are just not with-it enough to create any kind of vast conspiracy?

"Eco-Terrorism Remains No. 1 Domestic Terror Threat" [link] (Fox News, of course.)

It's really easy to blame ELF for pretty much anything, because there is no organized ELF. There's some vague national organization, but pretty much any bunch of people can get together and say they're an ELF cell, without any sort of contact with the national organization. So bunch of people torch a new development and spray paint "ELF" on the gate, that's part of the "conspiracy," even if they didn't have any contact at all with anyone else about what they were doing. And then all of those incidents get added up to a conspiracy conviction for the national people who didn't actually do, or possibly even know of, most of the acts in the conspiracy charge.

(The SHAC 7 is the big case with this right now, since it also involves the Animal Enterprise Protection Act, which basically gives much harsher penalties for crimes like vandalism when they're committed against businesses that use animals.)


Susan W. - May 16, 2008 10:58:39 am PDT #7384 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I pretty much stick to the natural peanut butter, the kind with just peanuts and salt

I get the Adam's No-Stir, the kind with just a smidge of Evil!Fat to make it shelf-stable. I got tired of dealing with the natural kind, especially now that AB is making her own PB crackers and sandwiches. But sweetened PB tastes wrong to me now.

Can't you just picture packs of berries roaming through Susan's backyard, growling and baring their teeny pointed teeth?

If you saw me after picking them, you'd think that's what they looked like! Serious thorns on those things.

The new place doesn't have a bank of berries in the backyard, though there are a few mixed in with the ivy growing over the fence between us and our neighbors. But it's never hard to find the feralberries to pick around these parts in late August or early September.


Jesse - May 16, 2008 11:02:40 am PDT #7385 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Now, anyone know the answer for Indianapolis? (Travel time from airport to downtown, taxi, no luggage.)

If meara doesn't answer for sure, I think it's like 15-20 minutes, but I'm not 100% sure...


shrift - May 16, 2008 11:07:17 am PDT #7386 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I love it when people do rude things and then stare you down like you're the one who ought to apologize.


Susan W. - May 16, 2008 11:08:47 am PDT #7387 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

OK, so I'd thought of Mike Huckabee as being a decent human being whom I just happened to disagree with on pretty much every political issue.

I changed my mind: [link]


javachik - May 16, 2008 11:09:54 am PDT #7388 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Adam's peanut butter FTW.

I read this as Adam's peanut butter fut the whuck.

I love "feralberries". Brilliant.


brenda m - May 16, 2008 11:11:29 am PDT #7389 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

OK, so I'd thought of Mike Huckabee as being a decent human being whom I just happened to disagree with on pretty much every political issue.

Two words. Wayne Dumond.


Trudy Booth - May 16, 2008 11:13:15 am PDT #7390 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's really easy to blame ELF for pretty much anything, because there is no organized ELF. There's some vague national organization, but pretty much any bunch of people can get together and say they're an ELF cell, without any sort of contact with the national organization. So bunch of people torch a new development and spray paint "ELF" on the gate, that's part of the "conspiracy," even if they didn't have any contact at all with anyone else about what they were doing. And then all of those incidents get added up to a conspiracy conviction for the national people who didn't actually do, or possibly even know of, most of the acts in the conspiracy charge.

That's pretty much the dealieo with Al Quaida too, isn't it?


meara - May 16, 2008 11:14:31 am PDT #7391 of 10001

anyone know the answer for Indianapolis? (Travel time from airport to downtown, taxi, no luggage

I'd say probably more like 20 minutes than 15...depends a little on what part of downtown, and how many one way streets you have to go around and around to get to where you're going.