Please...Wesley...why can't I stay?

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Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - May 09, 2008 7:07:44 am PDT #5923 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The exact quote is different, but the spirit is the same: "He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24)

Huh, interesting. (That "correct" is apparently equivalent to "hit with a stick," I mean. Not much middle ground there!)


Scrappy - May 09, 2008 7:08:29 am PDT #5924 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

We had the best, fastest, easiest veg last night. We sauteed diced onion and shredded cabbage (we were too lazy to shred, so we just used coleslaw mix) and added curry powder and a bit of soy sauce. Delicious, and I am not usually a cabbage fan!


tommyrot - May 09, 2008 7:08:35 am PDT #5925 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes"

So it's OK to hit boys, but no mention of girls?

Is this sorta' how all the biblical prohibitions against homosexuality only mention men?


tommyrot - May 09, 2008 7:12:59 am PDT #5926 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Duuuuude.....

3 accused of using corpse head to smoke pot

Jones claimed he and his friends used shovels to dig up the body and removed the corpse's head with a garden tool, Adkins said. Jones also revealed he and the other two boys took the severed head to the juvenile's home, where they used the skull as a "bong" to smoke marijuana, the officer said.


Jessica - May 09, 2008 7:14:47 am PDT #5927 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jones claimed he and his friends used shovels to dig up the body and removed the corpse's head with a garden tool, Adkins said. Jones also revealed he and the other two boys took the severed head to the juvenile's home, where they used the skull as a "bong" to smoke marijuana, the officer said.

Okay, if you're high enough to think this is a good idea? YOU ARE SMOKING TOO MUCH POT.


Hil R. - May 09, 2008 7:15:55 am PDT #5928 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Is this sorta' how all the biblical prohibitions against homosexuality only mention men?

I'm pretty certain that there's only one direct biblical prohibition against homosexuality: You shall not lie with a man the lyings of a woman, it is an abomination. I remember a bunch of discussion of what "the lyings of a woman" actually means. There are a bunch of rabbis who've interpreted that to mean that anything except anal sex is OK.


Kat - May 09, 2008 7:16:24 am PDT #5929 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

So I googled blanket training. The first link is to a mom blog about being a mother of 8. The second link is about a woman who wished she had known this before she had her 7th kid.

Is there a connection between blanket training and breeding a basketball team?


JZ - May 09, 2008 7:19:11 am PDT #5930 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Isn't 41 getting pretty high risk?

Yes, pretty high. Down Syndrome is just the first/most obvious risk at that age.

I am keeping my mouth and fingers firmly shut on the matter of whether these particular... individuals should continue breeding the way they are, but as a pregnant-at-37/birthed-at-38 person I kinda want to clarify some of the risk stuff.

Short answer: It all depends.

Slightly longer answer: At around 40 your Down's risk does go up by some alarming factor; IIRC, it doubles. But the under-40 risk for an otherwise healthy woman with no genetic red flags is 1% anyway, so even though the risk doubles past 40 it still means that 98 out of 100 of post-40 moms will have non-Down's babies.

And it can vary further depending on your personal history, family history and blood work. Some women are low-fertility and high-risk from their early 20s on (a lot don't get diagnosed until their mid to late 30s because they don't start TTC until then, but often the problems would have been diagnosed earlier if they'd started earlier); I know of at least one late-30s pregnant woman whose risk was assessed, after all the numbers were crunched by a team of OBs and geneticists, as approximately the same as that of a healthy woman in her late 20s.

So, in short, the risks go up but it's more random and less doomy than it seems; between the genetic counseling we got and the masses of reading I did at the time, it looks like, if you're otherwise healthy with no risk factors besides your age, by the time the risk of serious birth defects becomes statistically significant you're going to be old enough that conceiving at all is increasingly unlikely.

Not saying anything about that couple and their army of offspring. Not. Not.


meara - May 09, 2008 7:25:03 am PDT #5931 of 10001

In fact, my mother's cousin *did* lose an arm sticking out the car window, which I'm afraid I found rather funny at 10, because I'd already been told a number of "don't stick body parts out of the car" urban legends before she told us about him

Dude! Your mom's cousin probably STARTED those urban legends. Awesome.

flea, do we need to kick mr. flea's butt into doing somethign nice for mother's day? Or do you have an agreement that he doesn't get anythign for father's day?

It isn't the busy in December and January. It's the busy in March and April.

Hah! That's exactly what i was thinking. I can't believe that clowncaruterus woman is pregnant again. Damn!

With a wooden spoon, tap around the borders of the blanket. If the baby crawls off the blanket, slap the kid's hand with the spoon, put the kid back on the blanket,

Wow, that's....kinda creepy. Also, don't they have fifteen older kids who can make sure the little one doesn't burn the place down?? Yeesh.


Typo Boy - May 09, 2008 7:27:36 am PDT #5932 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think in the problematic books (otherwise known as the new testament) I think there is something about (paraphrase) "they took to strange ways, men lay with men and woman with women". And it is clearly meant as a sin. Then again, so is overeating. Something about (paraphrase again) "becomes as a sieve leaking from every hole". So all the gays and all us fat dudes are equally headed for hell, but given the relative severity of the criticism, us fat dudes to deeper more painful levels.