Mal: I call you back? Wash: No, Mal. You didn't. Zoe: I take full responsibility, cap.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strega - May 01, 2008 8:33:27 pm PDT #4615 of 10001

I think so? Hope so. It looks like that section would be tall enough for a standing wine bottle, anyway. If there's room to stack 3 bottles sideways, I figure the bottom section must be 13, 14 inches.

Worst case, the mixers & what fits can go underneath and anything too tall can sit on top. I dig the wheels, but I don't think I'll be rolling it around at great speeds. Although it's a tempting thought...


Strega - May 01, 2008 8:39:00 pm PDT #4616 of 10001

Wait, I found measurements! Yay.

Nine bottle wine storage, open storage area (14"W x 10.125"H), utility drawer, side shelves (top side shelf is 11.5"H; bottom side shelf is 15.5" high; shelves can hold a bottle with diameter up to 3"); locking casters.

So without the rack, the bottom is probably between 14 and 15 inches. Which should suffice.


Tamara - May 01, 2008 8:44:35 pm PDT #4617 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

If you make it all the way through to the end of Grey's there is a scene in an elevator that is laugh out loud funny.


lori - May 01, 2008 8:59:00 pm PDT #4618 of 10001

So, I'm going to a work conference in Huntsville, AL all next week. What's the can't-miss things to do, and more importantly, eat, in that vicinity?

I've got a wee bit of free time, maybe Sunday night and Tuesday night, and a rental car. Unfortunately, the days are all booked up with work.


Typo Boy - May 01, 2008 10:02:31 pm PDT #4619 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

You know, I've heard so many variations I'm now confused. What is the classic martini recipe anyway? Or, to avoid stirring up a fight, what are the two competing recipes for the classic martini?


Daisy Jane - May 01, 2008 10:14:10 pm PDT #4620 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

4 oz gin, 1 or 1/2 oz vermouth, stirred (classically, though I prefer shaken) with an olive or onion.


billytea - May 01, 2008 10:18:52 pm PDT #4621 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Hey TB, have you read a book called The Bottom Billion by Paul Collier? I'm reading it at the moment, and I was wondering what you thought of it.


javachik - May 01, 2008 10:26:34 pm PDT #4622 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Lori, when I had to visit a clinical site in Huntsville, I visited the space center and ended up having a pretty damned good time!


Typo Boy - May 01, 2008 10:38:47 pm PDT #4623 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Billytea have not read it. I admit the call for "carefully calibrated military interventions" is one I find suspicious, but can't comment until I read it. Unfortunately, my schedule is full until July.


billytea - May 02, 2008 12:20:01 am PDT #4624 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Billytea have not read it. I admit the call for "carefully calibrated military interventions" is one I find suspicious, but can't comment until I read it.

Yeah. His position is rather better principled than, say, the current administration's, being focused on preventing genocidee, internecine civil war and/or state collapse (such as Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Somalia), but it still carries the risk of going wrong, and keeping governments committed to higher-minded principles may be an even greater challenge.

Still, for all that I'd have preferred to see (for instance) intervention in Rwanda.